Mac OS X would not be here without NeXT

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Did you know that you can run KDE on your OS X box?

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Please don't talk to me like I'm an idiot.

I don't really care for KDE either, mind you. Nor GNOME. IRIX is pretty decent but the file manager, for instance, still feels a little bolted on.

ssh into it and start KDE remotely. (Of course, you have to install it first.)

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Or install it from MacPorts (Fink is a bit crap, IMO) and edit your .xinitrc to run it automagically, and then run it via X11.app.

You can even log in without the GUI (login as >console) and open -a X11.app as root, although that will log you in as root cos but only root can start the windowing system (and X11.app needs Quartz running)..

Maybe this is also an academic question, but would you not consider Darwin to be a BSD-like UNIX?

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Oh FFS. Of course it is.

The point is, the package that gets delivered to end users, the way the Mac OS X operating system works, the philosophy and the metaphors that are built into the programming model, they're not UNIX-like at all. That's why I bring out iTunes as an example: it's a "good OS X app", which it probably is, good integration with the dragging and the dropping, lickable user interface, all that - but to call something that puts all that functionality into a single blob UNIX-like is just insane.