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School auctions
Got about 20 AIO G3 Macs
5 QuickSilver G4s
5 DELL PCs
Few off brand PCs
2 DELL Monitors
More than 5 Blue G3s
14 iMacs
At least 25 Design keyboards and mice
Entire box of power cables
5 QuickSilver G4s
5 DELL PCs
Few off brand PCs
2 DELL Monitors
More than 5 Blue G3s
14 iMacs
At least 25 Design keyboards and mice
Entire box of power cables
Nice.
Now off to e-bay you go.
Now off to e-bay you go.
There's a Jr. High by me that still uses 5260 AIO's.
How much for ADB mice?
(removed) apparently I didn't get the point...
They are a recycler. They are probably recycling the Macs. They have NO track record of reselling Macs on eBay. I would have no problem with the company reselling the Macs.
how much for one of the quicksilvers? PM me please.
The G3 AIOs are beasts, are they not? I have one now, gonna go get another one. they are also very finicky. Like cats...
-digital
The G3 AIOs are beasts, are they not? I have one now, gonna go get another one. they are also very finicky. Like cats...
-digital
How much would you want for a b&w g3?
No man, its mine! As soon as I can get him a decent G4 system. 
They have the slower processors, maybe $20 or so + shipping? I'll put a little extra RAM in it. I have a few available I can sell, PM me.
I also have a really sad broken one. It's missing two handles at least and it's scratched. $10 for that one.
PM me if interested.
Couple dollars each, PM me if you're interested.
Except that both companies were known e-bay sellers with currently happening Mac auctions, on eBay.
Somewhere, we have to get the resources to build new electronics, and some of that simply has to come from the recycling of old electronics.
Sure, we don't have to destroy every 5260 in the name of progress -- but we also don't need to preserve every Mac ever made, purely because they're Macs. That's just like saying we need to preserve every Dell computer ever made, purely because they're Dells.
Crush all the CRTs you want - we definitely have a glut of those. Most of the time, pallets of monitors only go for $5 or $10 each on the auctions. Get some metals out of those.
We are talking about entire useful computers though - you can use them to type and draw and e-mail and maybe even a little bit of web browsing, you can play old games on them, if someone just takes the time to load a bit of software you can have a super cheap useful computer! The Power Mac 5xxx, used to go for so cheap that I could buy a pallet of them, with keyboard and mice and power cables and sell ENTIRE systems for $5 each, with AppleWorks or something like that loaded on them, useful system you can buy for spare change you have lying around. A useful computer, that's a lot better than a bunch of crappy metal, or even worse the computers going to India or China so little kids can breathe in some f'ked up smoke.
I have the knowledge and desire to take the Power Macs and make them into useful systems that people will gladly buy and enjoy, but instead this recycler is buying them up so he can make $5.
The problem is though, is that no matter what, its simply not possible to save every computer. The thing is, recycling is very good for the planet, much better than harvesting it for more raw materials. And on top of that, if he crushes say, 10,000 5260's, there's still several hundred thousand more of the things still out there.
Overall, yes. But we are talking right here, right now, I could have these Power Macs in my hand right now, and putting together systems, and selling those systems to people that can use them. Maybe in another city that's not possible and the only practical choice is to recycle the computers, but right now I have the means to repurpose those computers and I can't.
It sounds like both of you are out to make a buck -- it's just that the recyclers have got bucks that are scaled up a little bit.
Honestly? There's a certain point at which you shouldn't expect someone to be able to use an older computer simply because they're "low-income" or because they're younger than a certain age. (Although I'm an advocate of good old-fashioned education that puts a focus on the actual concepts that are to be learned, and not "using a computer for everything we can.")
A low-income household doesn't need an old slow machine for typing or drawing, they need something with which they can keep up on the news and with which they can hunt for a job, or communicate with potential employers.
Old computers are great to have around as a hobby, for someone who already has a modern computer, and who has time to play older computers. But there are a lot of situations too where it's simply silly to have a modern computer as well as an older computer. I'll be the first to admit that about half of what I do on my computer could be done on the 840av.
But the 840av (or just about any other non-newworld Mac) on its own uses twice as much electricity as my iMac, and the other half of what I do is so impossible on the 840av, it's not even funny to think about it. Plus I live in a dorm, and the fewer things I have to shuffle around to get to the very limited space on my desk, the better.
Honestly? There's a certain point at which you shouldn't expect someone to be able to use an older computer simply because they're "low-income" or because they're younger than a certain age. (Although I'm an advocate of good old-fashioned education that puts a focus on the actual concepts that are to be learned, and not "using a computer for everything we can.")
A low-income household doesn't need an old slow machine for typing or drawing, they need something with which they can keep up on the news and with which they can hunt for a job, or communicate with potential employers.
Old computers are great to have around as a hobby, for someone who already has a modern computer, and who has time to play older computers. But there are a lot of situations too where it's simply silly to have a modern computer as well as an older computer. I'll be the first to admit that about half of what I do on my computer could be done on the 840av.
But the 840av (or just about any other non-newworld Mac) on its own uses twice as much electricity as my iMac, and the other half of what I do is so impossible on the 840av, it's not even funny to think about it. Plus I live in a dorm, and the fewer things I have to shuffle around to get to the very limited space on my desk, the better.
There are tons of 3 year old PCs that can be usefull systems but get recycled, I don't think 10 year old systems are any better then the 3 year old PCs because they happen to be Macs.
I don't agree with the crush all the CRTs you want comment, there are plenty of proprietary monitors out there that are needed to keep old systems running correctly (special refresh rates, connector types, recolutions, scan rates etc).
Most of what we are talking about here are for collectors, not people who want a 10 year old machine to get on the net. Freecycle has plenty of more modern items free, craigslist has plenty of newer items cheap. The cost of brand new machines is under $500 with monitor.
I don't agree with the crush all the CRTs you want comment, there are plenty of proprietary monitors out there that are needed to keep old systems running correctly (special refresh rates, connector types, recolutions, scan rates etc).
Most of what we are talking about here are for collectors, not people who want a 10 year old machine to get on the net. Freecycle has plenty of more modern items free, craigslist has plenty of newer items cheap. The cost of brand new machines is under $500 with monitor.
Yeah, and for $300-400, you can get a really nice brand new computer, complete system. That's the biggest reason I think we should stop trying to afflict the "low income" and the children with old Macs. (Especially the low income. The children should get lego bricks, or crayons and paper.)
Sure, those cheap computers are a form of e-waste, eventually they'll get recycled and make new e-waste.
There's a justification in here somewhere for discontinuing all budget PCs and only selling computers we know will last awhile. But that's like, contrary to the American Dream or something.
Sure, those cheap computers are a form of e-waste, eventually they'll get recycled and make new e-waste.
There's a justification in here somewhere for discontinuing all budget PCs and only selling computers we know will last awhile. But that's like, contrary to the American Dream or something.
Those older systems are ghastly at even light email and web browsing by todays spec, it's just simply too impractical to use them for work anymore (unless it's your hobby or passion).
I think older systems, especially old powerbooks, are great for writers.
Simple, inexpensive (often free), reliable, absolute minimal distraction.
I have to admit, when I was younger and someone donated a secondhand 386 to my family, we really only used it to play games... but what I got out of it was a working knowledge of how computers functioned. Now not only can I fix just about anything, but I am the only member of my family in my hometown who actually went on to college.
So... yeah. I'm grateful that I ended up with someone's crappy, secondhand PC.
But there's no way we can save them all, and with the advent of electric vehicles, nearly disposable electronic gadgets, and a growing population, we're going to need all the copper we can get. It's inevitable that these bulky, older machines get recycled for metals.
68kmla will eventually be reduced to a bunch of antique vendors anyway... so.. save what you can, while you can, cherish the best and recycle the rest.
Simple, inexpensive (often free), reliable, absolute minimal distraction.
I have to admit, when I was younger and someone donated a secondhand 386 to my family, we really only used it to play games... but what I got out of it was a working knowledge of how computers functioned. Now not only can I fix just about anything, but I am the only member of my family in my hometown who actually went on to college.
So... yeah. I'm grateful that I ended up with someone's crappy, secondhand PC.
But there's no way we can save them all, and with the advent of electric vehicles, nearly disposable electronic gadgets, and a growing population, we're going to need all the copper we can get. It's inevitable that these bulky, older machines get recycled for metals.
68kmla will eventually be reduced to a bunch of antique vendors anyway... so.. save what you can, while you can, cherish the best and recycle the rest.
I'm not out to make a buck on the Power Macs. The only money I really make is with the older LC 5xx and the slot load iMacs, and sometimes G3 AIOs.
The Power Mac 5xxx just kind of fall into a crack.
Answer this question: Is a Power Mac 5xxx better off in someone's home being used, or crushed up into metals? You can hook up a printer, and you have AppleWorks, now you can type letters. Resumes you can send out if you're low income looking for a job.
The Power Mac 5xxx just kind of fall into a crack.
Answer this question: Is a Power Mac 5xxx better off in someone's home being used, or crushed up into metals? You can hook up a printer, and you have AppleWorks, now you can type letters. Resumes you can send out if you're low income looking for a job.
Low income people fill out job forms with a pen, they don't have resumes.
As far as wether a powermac 5xxx is better off crushed or in a home, I think the question should be is the person in that home better off buying a powermac 5xxx, something newer, or nothing at all.
There is a cost associated with having a computer, mostly in the cost of internet services and electricity used. I think if you need a computer for internet use, you should get one that works well on the internet (newer). If you need a machine for general typing, then just about anything will do.
I understand you hate seeing old macs ground into dust, just like I hate seeing old analog video capture gear being tossed in the trash. But we both have to understand that those items were made for a purpose, and they have been eclipsed by newer technology. While I spend plenty of time and money collecting the old video gear I like, I also understand that anybody who needs to edit video would be stupid to use what I collect when the newer cheaper stuff is so much easier and faster to use (more reliable as well). I have a hobby that is a small niche in the computer collecting hobby which is not that big to start with. I collect obsolete junk, atleast thats what it is to 99% of the people out there, so I expect that 99% of the machines made are going to get recycled after I get the ones I want.
I get emotional over living things getting destroyed, but not over plastic and metal.
As far as wether a powermac 5xxx is better off crushed or in a home, I think the question should be is the person in that home better off buying a powermac 5xxx, something newer, or nothing at all.
There is a cost associated with having a computer, mostly in the cost of internet services and electricity used. I think if you need a computer for internet use, you should get one that works well on the internet (newer). If you need a machine for general typing, then just about anything will do.
I understand you hate seeing old macs ground into dust, just like I hate seeing old analog video capture gear being tossed in the trash. But we both have to understand that those items were made for a purpose, and they have been eclipsed by newer technology. While I spend plenty of time and money collecting the old video gear I like, I also understand that anybody who needs to edit video would be stupid to use what I collect when the newer cheaper stuff is so much easier and faster to use (more reliable as well). I have a hobby that is a small niche in the computer collecting hobby which is not that big to start with. I collect obsolete junk, atleast thats what it is to 99% of the people out there, so I expect that 99% of the machines made are going to get recycled after I get the ones I want.
I get emotional over living things getting destroyed, but not over plastic and metal.
I picked up some other auctions today. I was really smart and bid on the pallet with keyboards and mice, and WOW - I got over 100 keyboards and at least 150 mice, all USB and mostly Apple brand stuff. I also got a bunch of DELL monitors that I gave to Goodwill.
We managed to get the 45 iMacs out of there. Lots of 500 MHz. Really nice.
Also got a LaserWriter 16/600, and some kind of Xerox copy machine, and an Apple Display 720.
There was lots of stuff sitting around, the guy let me take a IIGS(!) from one of the tables, and a 17" Apple Trinitron blue type CRT, for free.
Tomorrow we get the LCs.
We managed to get the 45 iMacs out of there. Lots of 500 MHz. Really nice.
Also got a LaserWriter 16/600, and some kind of Xerox copy machine, and an Apple Display 720.
There was lots of stuff sitting around, the guy let me take a IIGS(!) from one of the tables, and a 17" Apple Trinitron blue type CRT, for free.
Tomorrow we get the LCs.
Concerning recycling:
It's my opinion, that while recycling is inevitable, in the particular situation faced here, where one person can take the Macs and get them into homes where people can use them, or another person can strip them down into bare metals and plastics and other basic products, that it is better to keep the Macs going. These are working computers. They will die, yes, and at that point let them be recycled, but they're useful, maybe not on the internet, but they run some useful programs well, and that utilization is more useful than a pile of metal.
There's situations where recycling is immediately useful. Someone said don't crush the rare CRTs, I agree - when I said crush all the CRTs I meant the huge gluts of DELL and Smile Int'l and other generic VGA type displays clogging up the school warehouses currently. As a whole tens, maybe almost a hundred million VGA displays have been made but probably less than 10 million 5xxx machines, let's get rid of those VGA monitors and stuff.
That's all I have to say about it.
It's my opinion, that while recycling is inevitable, in the particular situation faced here, where one person can take the Macs and get them into homes where people can use them, or another person can strip them down into bare metals and plastics and other basic products, that it is better to keep the Macs going. These are working computers. They will die, yes, and at that point let them be recycled, but they're useful, maybe not on the internet, but they run some useful programs well, and that utilization is more useful than a pile of metal.
There's situations where recycling is immediately useful. Someone said don't crush the rare CRTs, I agree - when I said crush all the CRTs I meant the huge gluts of DELL and Smile Int'l and other generic VGA type displays clogging up the school warehouses currently. As a whole tens, maybe almost a hundred million VGA displays have been made but probably less than 10 million 5xxx machines, let's get rid of those VGA monitors and stuff.
That's all I have to say about it.
How much are you going to sell an Apple USB keyboard and mouse for?
I wish there were some kind of movement to reduce the internet back to a state of coding simplicity... it's all this javascript and flash that really throws a wrench into what we're trying to do.
...if we could actually access the internet reliably on our 68k machines, I don't think we would be having this discussion.
...if we could actually access the internet reliably on our 68k machines, I don't think we would be having this discussion.
I guess it depends on, if it's the puck mouse or Pro Mouse, and the older debut iMac keyboard or the newer "Pro Keyboard" full size one.
The Pro items have managed to hold their value on eBay, where a set can sell for almost $20 + ship. So how about $15 + ship?
For the older type iMac keyboard and puck mouse, maybe $12 + ship, choose your color.
What model iMac's?
500 MHz Slot Loaders. Mostly blue I think.
Death to all puck mice.