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Methinks Apple knew about X before they told us :P

68kMLA PowerPC 27 posts Mar 26, 2008 to Apr 4, 2008

#1 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 16:06 68kMLA

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4849/picture3hk0.png

That be from browsing a Power Macintosh 6/7/8100 System install CD version 7.1.2. Don't those little X's look familiar?!?!?

And yes, I'm using OS 9. I have been for about a month now, and the disablement of my main G4 has extended my use of it beyond the initial week or so that I'd planned, prolly pushing it at least until the end of the semester now

. Great OS once you get used to its limitations, and I'll never want to go back to X on this screen. Platinum @ 1440x900 is GODLY

#2 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 16:41 68kMLA

hehe.. I have a beige G3 running OS 8 at 1920x1200 on a 19" CRT. The icons are so itty-bitty, it's nearly unusable. (It's my AppleShare server, so I have every single AppleShare status window open on it simultaneously, with no overlaps.

#3 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 16:54 68kMLA

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8673/picture4mm0.png

Thar be a screenshot if anyone's interested.

I know what you mean about the icons. I'd gotten used to them, then I installed 10.2 on here for the hell of it. Once it booted to the desktop, I was like "HOLY CRAP! Those icons are HUUUUUGE!"

#4 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 16:59 68kMLA

What resolution be that?

And what're ye doing to make OS9 use 96 mega bites of RArrM?

#5 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 17:15 68kMLA

What resolution be that?
And what're ye doing to make OS9 use 96 mega bites of RArrM?

That be 1440x900.

I have no clue to be honest

I would assume that just having so many apps open, along with not ever rebooting the machine (I seem to be able to go a week in OS 9 before I end up rebooting) got me there. I don't really mind though. With 704 megs overall, who cares?

But yeah, if anyone here has any ideas and wishes to clue me in, please do!

#6 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 17:18 68kMLA

The system itself appears to be taking up 96 MB.

Do you not manually clean yer System Foddler? I don't keep so much as one preferences file that I don't need - it's one of the great joys of OS less-than-Eggs.

#7 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 17:27 68kMLA

The system itself appears to be taking up 96 MB.
Do you not manually clean yer System Foddler? I don't keep so much as one preferences file that I don't need - it's one of the great joys of OS less-than-Eggs.

Yeah, I agree that the system is taking up 96 megs. It seems to grow a bit with every app I launch; I noticed that under 9.1 on my 6500.

It starts out around 40 when freshly booted, so It kinda confuses me, but w/e. It can grow 400 more before I'll notice

#8 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 17:34 68kMLA

Sounds like something is leaking memory... try booting with the base set of extensions and see if it still does it.

#9 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 19:29 68kMLA

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4849/picture3hk0.png
That be from browsing a Power Macintosh 6/7/8100 System install CD version 7.1.2. Don't those little X's look familiar?!?!?

And yes, I'm using OS 9. I have been for about a month now, and the disablement of my main G4 has extended my use of it beyond the initial week or so that I'd planned, prolly pushing it at least until the end of the semester now . Great OS once you get used to its limitations, and I'll never want to go back to X on this screen. Platinum @ 1440x900 is GODLY

When they designed the OS X logo they probably used a capital X from whatever font they had lying around that they didn't have to pay royalties on. There's no way anyone inside Apple at the time of 7.1.2 could have predicted OS X was coming.

#10 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 19:59 68kMLA

Why not after all all OS X is only a logical progression of NeXTStep and Jobs did creat the whole NeXT series

#11 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 20:48 68kMLA

Except "Macintosh Basics" and Mac OS 7 were created well after the departure of Steve Jobs from Apple, so he had no input into the creation of anything from about the Plus era (he was even gone before the Plus was introduced, but I'm sure he still had some input early in the design process of the Plus,) to the earliest G3s.

#12 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 21:01 68kMLA

'Twas but a joke, my good people!

Jeebus, some of y'all need to stop taking things so seriously. Even I know they weren't working on the OS X logo in *insert CD copyright date check here* 1994

I'd totally take you advice Tom, but I can only imagine that a week or so on the base extensions would be absolutely no fun at all. I'll repost something if it gets any worse. Thanks though

#13 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 - 23:52 68kMLA

The reason that X popped up is because it's a capital X rendered in Apple Garamond, which was the main font Apple used for marketing, packaging, manuals etc. from System 7 to late 2005(ish).

See: http://www.fontriver.com/i/maps/apple_garamond_map.png

The original OS X 'X' is just an Aqua glass rendering of the same letter in Apple Garamond.

#14 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 00:34 68kMLA

Except "Macintosh Basics" and Mac OS 7 were created well after the departure of Steve Jobs from Apple, so he had no input into the creation of anything from about the Plus era (he was even gone before the Plus was introduced, but I'm sure he still had some input early in the design process of the Plus,) to the earliest G3s.

EVERYONE with even the SLIGHTEST KNOWLEDGE of Apple history will know that EVERYTHING APPLE EVER DID WAS LAID OUT PERFECTLY, TIMED AND PLANNED! FROM THE BEGINNING!! You obviously know NOTHING of APPLE HISTORY!

#15 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 00:35 68kMLA

THE WORLD REVOLVES AT THE STEVE'S COMMAND!

#16 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 00:35 68kMLA

JONATHAN IVE DESIGNED THE PYRAMIDS!

FACT!

#17 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 00:36 68kMLA

It is probably just a coincidence that the icons and OS X logo look similar but sometimes an idea can be inspired from something that someone saw long before. To elaborate, maybe the person desinging the OS X logo had once seen the same icons as you found and used them for inspiration on a conscious or sub-conscious level.

#18 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 02:16 68kMLA

Absolutely. I remember seeing a computer that looked suspiciously like the iMac G4 somewhere in the AppleDesign book.

#19 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 07:33 68kMLA

It is probably just a coincidence that the icons and OS X logo look similar but sometimes an idea can be inspired from something that someone saw long before. To elaborate, maybe the person desinging the OS X logo had once seen the same icons as you found and used them for inspiration on a conscious or sub-conscious level.

Or, as SVP mentioned a few posts further up, it's the capital X character rendered in Apple Garamond.

But yeah, as Jobs liked to quote picasso as having said... "good artists borrow, great artists steal" or something to that end.

#20 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 09:11 68kMLA

I thought it was "Real artists ship". As in hurry up and finish Copland you slackers.

#21 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 20:16 68kMLA

Come on folks, the OS X logo has been around for a lot longer than that:

http://www.vintagemacworld.com/os_x_logo.html

#22 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 22:22 68kMLA

I thought it was "Real artists ship". As in hurry up and finish Copland you slackers.

Everyone was a slacker in Steve Jobs' eyes.

#23 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 - 23:30 68kMLA

Come on folks, the OS X logo has been around for a lot longer than that:
http://www.vintagemacworld.com/os_x_logo.html

Hah, see? They've been seeding us subtle hints about it for over 20 years!

/me obsessively pours through the documentation that caome with his Apple II for messages about OS XI

#24 Fri, 4 Apr 2008 - 01:59 68kMLA

The system itself appears to be taking up 96 MB.
Do you not manually clean yer System Foddler? I don't keep so much as one preferences file that I don't need - it's one of the great joys of OS less-than-Eggs.

Click to expand...

Yeah, I agree that the system is taking up 96 megs. It seems to grow a bit with every app I launch; I noticed that under 9.1 on my 6500.

It starts out around 40 when freshly booted, so It kinda confuses me, but w/e. It can grow 400 more before I'll notice

Well, I mentioned that I'd post if it got any worse. It reached a milestone a while ago, and I just got around to taking a screenshot. 108.8 megs

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8263/picture6ap3.png

Yes, I'm running a ton of crap. And who says OS 9 can't multitask?

#25 Fri, 4 Apr 2008 - 08:19 68kMLA

The system itself appears to be taking up 96 MB.
Do you not manually clean yer System Foddler? I don't keep so much as one preferences file that I don't need - it's one of the great joys of OS less-than-Eggs.

Foddler, hmmm that just sounds wrong, even pervy. You disgusting System Foddler, you! [

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Cleaning out the System Folder was is and always will be an utter ball-ache, it's yet another reason i hate OS 7-9. I'll admit though I have had to do it on rare occasion in OS X, mostly sweeping out stuff I'm not using from the Library, but it never causes the system to bloat, it's just good housekeeping in OS X to save on disk space.

Well, I mentioned that I'd post if it got any worse. It reached a milestone a while ago, and I just got around to taking a screenshot. 108.8 megs

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8263/picture6ap3.png

Yes, I'm running a ton of crap. And who says OS 9 can't multitask?

No-one. It just does it badly. Windows can multitask after all, but we don't go around praising that do we... [

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#26 Fri, 4 Apr 2008 - 14:22 68kMLA

Funny how the thread is turning to multi-tasking. I recently discovered the joys of the F9 key in OS X.

#27 Fri, 4 Apr 2008 - 15:09 68kMLA

The F11 key is the best one! Like what Dave Cheppell(or whoever it was) said about exposé. You press one key and you could be watching 10 porn videos at once! and if your girlfriend walks you hit this other and they all go away!