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Post #25 by JDW
Source Forum68kMLA
CategoryHardware
Post DateMon, 14 Apr 2008 - 08:54
Original URLhttps://68kmla.org/bb/threads/daystar-iisi-se-30-adapter-150-on-ebay.12779/
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To begin, WELCOME TO 68kMLA, kjbjm!

You guys are funny, especially JDW.
Funny? No. (I know you were just being nice by saying that though.)

On edge about EBAY listings? Perhaps. :b&w:

I know for a fact that this adapter works with a turbo 040 in an SE/30...
Happy to hear it. But I didn't doubt you on that point. Also, I too have confirmed (see my posts above) that the IIsi adapter does in fact work on the SE/30 logic board in conjunction with Daystar accelerators (both old and new); and like you, we both understand and admit in this thread that this requires a metal frame mod to properly seat the IIsi adapter.

You can also buy 120 pin eurocard adapters from digikey and make an extender or an angle adapter that allows the card to clear the frame.
That wasn't mentioned in the auction (nor was it necessary to mention, I suppose). But thank you for mentioning that here.

I personally believe that anyone who bids on one of these cards should know what they are all about...Fact or fiction, the buyer has to do the research.
Fiction, then. There are a lot of newbies on EBAY. I too was once in that category. At that point in time, I did not "know what they are all about" and I relied upon the information in listings to educate me on many things. Yes, I did Google outside EBAY for additional info, but not everyone is as thorough as I am in checking something out. And the fact remains that I am "greatly pleased" as a buyer when a listing provides an abundance of facts for me, such that I don't have to spend an enormous amount of time elsewhere to figure out "compatibility" for my particular classic Mac.

But thank you for explaining your integrity as a seller. It is nice to hear from sellers, especially those who care about the classic Macintosh community.

One final thing for JDW. If you thought I was stupid and didn't know anything about the product that I was selling why didn't you message me to help inform me so I could correct the mistake? If you thought this was a scam listing or that I was deliberately lying to my bidders why didn't you alert EBAY? People who rant and rave but never do anything about it drive me nuts.
I never thought you were "stupid." I have stated in this thread that I do not agree with the lack of details in your auction about SE/30 compatibility for a IIsi adapter. And to ensure others are fully informed, assuming they come across this thread or Google up my photos, I have put information on Flickr to ensure no one will be led in the wrong direction as to the SE/30 compatibility of the IIsi Daystar adapter.

Why didn't I message you to help inform you of a mistake in your listing? Quite simply because I only learned of your listing after reading this thread. And I read this thread long after your auction had ended. That is why. And yes, I have taken my time in the past to email other EBAY sellers when I found an error in their listings, even in cases where I had no interest whatsoever in bidding on that listing!

Why didn't I alert EBAY? Because your listing, even though not detailed enough for my tastes, is common among may classic Mac EBAY listings today. Therefore, am I alone going to change EBAY by complaining about sellers? I don't think so, which is why I don't waste my time on EBAY complaining about these things. But posting on this site is special because I often post here and am alerted to happenings in the classic Mac community. I post here to informed others and to be informed. Yet another reason I did not speak directly with EBAY was because I wasn't interested in personally bidding on your auction. I was alerted to your auction after reading this thread.

But again, my issue with the listing was and still is that it lacks certain details about SE/30 compatibility, above and beyond mere "electrical compatibility." But your kindness in replying to us in this thread indicates you may rectify that in the future, if not but by providing more info for those poor souls out there who are not as Google-savvy as you and I are. And honestly, the more details you put into an auction, the higher the bid price will likely be. At least, that's how I am. I bid higher when I am impressed the content of an EBAY listing (for an item that interests me, of course). Please impress me in future listings! :b&w:

As to "ranting and raving without doing anything," I will again point you to the photos I uploaded to Flickr. I took time to shoot those photos only after having posted in this thread. I then took time to comment extensively under those photos, not to pound on you or your listing, but to educate others in the classic Mac community. If that is "not doing anything," then I truly am sorry. But in my mind, I have done something above and beyond a simple "rant." (Technically, my "rant" was confined to my opening post in this thread. And I never mentioned your EBAY seller name, either in this thread or in my Flickr photo comments.)

Thank you.

mp.ls