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Problem with Hard Drive in a Wallstreet

68kMLA Troubleshooting 18 posts Feb 18, 2015 to Apr 12, 2015

#1 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 08:47 68kMLA

Yesterday I've changed the hard disk(2GB) with a bigger(40GB) in a 233MHz 12'' Wallstreet.Worked for a while(formatted with OS 9.2) but today when I started the machine nothing...Any help?

#2 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 09:01 68kMLA

Not detected any more? Sounds faulty.

#3 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 09:23 68kMLA

Yep sounds like a faulty drive... would be the first thing I would look at, especially in a portable.

#4 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 11:23 68kMLA

Try putting the old 4Gb drive in to see if it boots.

Also the DC-in plugs are fragile on Wallstreet/PDQ models.

#5 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 15:20 68kMLA

I should actually probably have asked for clarification... when you say you started the machine and got nothing, do you mean it simply would not find a boot volume and/or seemed completely devoid of hard disk activity, or that when you attempted powerup the machine was completely inoperative?

I assumed the first option, but if the second is the case, yes, a faulty DC connector is a possibility as galgot suggested.

#6 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 19:31 68kMLA

The default hard drive(2GB) is dead.The newest one(40GB) works ok as external in a modern mac.I think the problem is in the connectors but I am not sure, because the disk worked for about 8 hours and when tried to start the machine today suddenly stopped working.

#7 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 20:19 68kMLA

But do you have the chime when you press the power button, or just nothing ?

Have you tried a reset , Shift - fn - ctrl - power ?

#8 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 21:14 68kMLA

I have the chime normally and I have also have the classic disk icon...

#9 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 - 21:42 68kMLA

So it's not power problem then. That icon is the question mark ?

Does it boot on a Cd ?

#10 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 - 06:07 68kMLA

That icon is the question mark,yes.It boots from a cd normally.

#11 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 - 07:49 68kMLA

Does the Hard Disk Tool (or SOS Disk) from the CD sees the new 40Gb drive ?

Sorry for all my questions btw

#12 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 - 16:51 68kMLA

No it does not unfortunately.Nor does any sound.I'll try it again.Also I have a Wallstreet G3/300 I'll take the hard disk caddy from it and try it to the other Mac.

#13 Fri, 13 Mar 2015 - 01:02 68kMLA

Get a magnifying glass and a flash light, remove the CPU/RAM Card and check the connector closest to the cage and check if the plastic is cracked. Since I use a CF to IDE - SSD on one of my Wallstreets, I've see the drive connector just pop off the mobo connector several times, but that's because the CF-IDE Adapter has no screws to hold down on to the HD Cage so it just floats there.

Hopefully connector on the mobo is fine, you really need to push down on it until you feel it go pop into place with your fingers. If not the connector is not fully seated in place. And tighten the hold down screws down to hand tight and no more. You will strip the screw anchor off the board if you over leverage it. (I did that with an iBook G4.... Damn my super strength!)

#14 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 - 03:19 68kMLA

I'll throw this out here, though I don't know if this is your issue... the Wallstreets had issues with some hard drives that produced a magnetic field (mostly those made by IBM) that isn't an issue when using the same drives in just about any other type of PowerBook (I had a 40 GB drive that worked great in my 3400c, but locked up my Wallstreet).

If this is an IBM drive (even if it is one Apple shipped with other systems), it most likely won't work.

#15 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 - 03:31 68kMLA

Any jumpers on either drive?

#16 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 - 08:23 68kMLA

RacerX said:
I'll throw this out here, ....

Sorry to be OT, but are you RacerX of Rhapsodyos.com Sir ?

If so, I'm glad to see you here, your site has been of great help for me installing/using Rhapsody !

#17 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 - 19:26 68kMLA

Are there jumpers on either drive? I have an absolutely identical problem on my 5300c and 3400c when the drives are not jumpered correctly.

#18 Sun, 12 Apr 2015 - 04:27 68kMLA

galgot said:
Sorry to be OT, but are you RacerX of Rhapsodyos.com Sir ?

If so, I'm glad to see you here, your site has been of great help for me installing/using Rhapsody !

Yeah... I'm that crazy Rhapsody guy.

And it is nice to hear that the site is helping people. I know I need to update some of it (and maybe put mirrors of dead links on the site).

Oddly enough, it was installing a larger hard drive to run Mac OS X Server 1.2 on my Wallstreet that brought the IBM drive issue to my attention originally (as that was the brand of drive I had originally bought). I still have one Wallstreet (G3/300) running Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 and another (with a G4/500 upgrade) running Mac OS 9.2.1, so I'm still quite fond of the design.