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Post #17 by JDW
Source Forum68kMLA
Category68k
Post DateSat, 3 May 2008 - 01:22
Original URLhttps://68kmla.org/bb/threads/levco-monstermac-scsi-for-512k.13002/
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...QUADRA-man. His screen name says it all! ;-)
:lol:

By the way, I did once own a Q650 (I paid US$1,000 to upgrade the 030 logic board in my IIvx to the 650). I loved that machine. So I fully understand what QuadraMan means! Go Quadras!

But at the same time, I also like the original 128k/512k because of the 64k ROMs. I think it's therefore silly to buy a 512ke, which is just a stripped down version of a Plus, with the same newer 128k ROMs. (And no, I do NOT consider the 128k or 512k to be "stripped" down because, in my mind, they are a different class of machine because of their 64k ROMs.) And in some respects, it's silly to buy the Plus since the SE is a better "68000" machine, offering you essentially the same software compatibility as the Plus, and the SE is also upgradeable too (upgradeable while allowing you to still retain that 68000). And no, I don't think you should cast aside the SE for the SE/30 because the SE/30 has an 030 CPU whereas the SE has a 68000.

So what I am saying is, if you want the original Mac with 64k ROMs, get a 128k or the original 512k. If you want a higher end 68000 CPU machine than that, get an SE. And if you want the fastest compact Mac available, get an SE/30 and max it out (with a DiiMO 50MHz 030 or 40MHz Daystar board, keeping in mind the DiiMO is more compatible and truer to what the SE/30 is -- an 030 compact Mac). If you want the fastest "68k" Mac possible, get a Q840AV. And if you want the fastest PPC Mac, get a G5 -- seriously, I see no other benefit to going with a 601 or 604e or G3 or even G4 (unless you, like me, love the beauty of the G4 Cube), since PPC is PPC and the fastest PPC rules (which is not true of 68k Macs, since 68000 machines are a different breed of Mac than 68020, 68030 or 68040 in terms of software compatibility). And before you call me nuts for my logic, consider what is sold on EBAY. Certain 68k Macs fetch high prices on EBAY. Many older PPC Macs, especially G3 machines, are next to worthless.

But getting back to the originally point... I, like Mac128k, want to see if there is a way to get SCSI going on the 64k ROMs, perhaps in conjunction with the HD20 init or similar "software hack." And if we could get extra memory too, without sacrificing software compatibility inherent to the 64k ROMs, then of course that would be nice as well (although any memory above 512k would be used as a RAM disk in conjunction with the 64k ROMs and no ROM hack). I think its fun to try to max out an older Mac while at the same time retain it's true nature (in other words, add SCSI to a Mac128k with 64k ROMs, rather than gut the machine and put in a Mac Mini and LCD screen).

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