ugg the one other place I thought I could get one was a bit overpriced for me (IE over half of the price I have seen lisa's for) I guess I will keep looking. I did find some great High res pictures of the keyboard pcb incase anyone needs to see them http://www.kbdbabel.org/lisa/ I guess they have them to use in there any keyboard to any computer adapter they are making and they may decide to support the apple lisa (that would be strange but it does run off 5vdc just like a usb one).