cool thanks we will see today (I hope) to open it up and do some tests. Less then 24 hours after running it I discharged the crt and not even the faintest zap, although they do not always do this it just seems to fuel my speculation of the HV not working, but we will see. I will be removing the video board and checking the parts on it. You know the best way to check the regulator and I going to have to test while powered on?