Thank you most of that I have tried (transmac did not work but macdisk did) but I seemed to have overlooked an important step the prodos extension. Thank you for pointing that out. I tried to get the LC IIe software but It would not work. I have moved to my g3 powerbook since it has ethernet and I can use apple share (so I can stop wasting cd moving info around)

nevermind I got the pro dos extension! still can not get any of the disk images in the right format for disk copy.

UPDATE! I guess I need to figure out how to change (in system 7.1) the default application for the disk images to disk copy document from the just document it is now so that disk copy will open them (they are in disk copy format) diskdup+ will not open them either.