I don't know if Rev. C ROMs fixed this problem, but ISTR that if the system resides in a partition larger than 8GB, much flakiness can occur if any system resources are stored beyond the 8GB limit. Perhaps this is irrelevant (and maybe even wrong altogether; I'd always partitioned my G3 drives to avoid even the possibility of such problems, so I'm relying on what I'd heard from others), but I'm passing it on FWIW.

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thanks for the suggestion and its defiantly worth trying but I think I will see if there is something else I can do first.

The HD is sort of a recent change however, i replaced it because the Quantum fireball was doing some really odd things and having data corruption issues. Come to think of it i remember this problem existing before the drive change because i remember having the drive become unreadable after an improper shut down. Oh ya thats when i was trying the mail application that the computer came with. was working fine and then freeze. The funny thing about that is that the crash created a 50 GB file on an 8 GB drive :lol: :lol: :lol: