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The first Mac SE prototype...?
Hi,
As you are the best site on prototype Macintosh, I'm submitting you this one, which is probably the unique EVT1 survivor of the Mac SE project.
When I first saw it circa 1986 on the marketing mgr desk of the Apple offices in Les Ulis (France), it was complete, with the prototype Aladdin power supply, squirrel cage fan, inner metal frame, hdd and motherboard. But I could only salvage the enclosure later, when it was thrown to the bin.
This very first stage Mac SE prototype enclosure was made by Apple Product Development team, starting from a Macintosh Plus enclosure : this is NOT a fake or an individual hack-built one.
How did I get it? It was probably brought in back in the french Apple offices while Jean-Louis Gassée (the former Apple France manager) became VP of product development at Apple in Cupertino.
Does anyone have more to say or retrieve about this unit ?
Rgds.
Robert
As you are the best site on prototype Macintosh, I'm submitting you this one, which is probably the unique EVT1 survivor of the Mac SE project.
When I first saw it circa 1986 on the marketing mgr desk of the Apple offices in Les Ulis (France), it was complete, with the prototype Aladdin power supply, squirrel cage fan, inner metal frame, hdd and motherboard. But I could only salvage the enclosure later, when it was thrown to the bin.
This very first stage Mac SE prototype enclosure was made by Apple Product Development team, starting from a Macintosh Plus enclosure : this is NOT a fake or an individual hack-built one.
How did I get it? It was probably brought in back in the french Apple offices while Jean-Louis Gassée (the former Apple France manager) became VP of product development at Apple in Cupertino.
Does anyone have more to say or retrieve about this unit ?
Rgds.
Robert
Both rear and front parts were modified, starting from Mac Plus parts. And yes, in the background there is also a gray Pippin controller, an AppleDjinn modem, a Color OneScanner and a LC630 style (6360?) PPC machine with Performa 6500 Pci Mlb and prototype Audiovision 13 monitor... And you can't see my other jewels, like PPC Color Classic, Paladdin all-in-one or iCeball PowerBook 2400 prototypes!
show us ! 
Oh. My. Gosh.
You have a Tenth Anniversary Macintosh!
Is this your site? http://www.journaldulapin.com/2011/10/28/prototype-quelques-powerbook-et-mac-portables/
You have a Tenth Anniversary Macintosh!
Is this your site? http://www.journaldulapin.com/2011/10/28/prototype-quelques-powerbook-et-mac-portables/
This is not my site, nor the other mentioned.. but these are from my collection, good catch! And yes, I also had this clear Mac Portable, a clear 12 inch monochrome display (the one for the LC), a clear Mac SE... and even a stock Twentieth Anniversary Mac. But they were lost, stolen, left for scrap, ... or, for the Spartacus, given to an italian Mac museum...
Wow, some of those look like very early prototypes... heck, maybe even design concepts rather than prototypes. Maybe plastic tests right after whatever came out of Frog (usually cardboard, wood, and/or foam.)
I love that prototype keyboard. Looks reminiscent of the IIgs keyboard. Is it a IIgs prototype keyboard?
I love that prototype keyboard. Looks reminiscent of the IIgs keyboard. Is it a IIgs prototype keyboard?
Formerly, Apple mostly relied on external third party or Apple US/PAC modems designed specifically for these countries or regions; in France there was legacy of contracting local modem makers to design or build Apple branded modems (Sectrad, Hello, or Solectron Bordeaux for the Newton modem).
But when Apple designed the first Portable/PowerBook, a worldwide design team was created internally to handle the different telecom regulations in Europe. So the European Research & Development center (ERD) was created in Le Pecq near Paris, to design most of the worldwide modems and software needed for the Macs and PowerBooks (the internal 2400 PowerBook modem, the different Express Modem boards and soft engine, the Geoport Telecom Adapter pod, but also the French AppleDjinn and Djinn Pro or the 33.6k CommSlot modem, the PowerBop wireless CT2 hardware module, the Apple Telecom software 1/2/3 and scripts or the never released Apple Telecom 3.5 suite, the never release all-in-one Paladdin Mac communications suite...)
When Apple decided back to outsource all internal modems boards to Asante, Global Village, then Ambit on the PowerBook G3 Series and iMac, the whole european engineering team was fired, and the offices were closed. But I was friend with several wiz(es) from there, and I was invited when they were abandoning the site. So I could save some units from the bin, including early development units and boards.
The remainder came from the different Apple friends I had in Europe, who all knew I was a fan of such type of products. Like the early IIGS white keyboard (fitted with two female ADB ports).
But when Apple designed the first Portable/PowerBook, a worldwide design team was created internally to handle the different telecom regulations in Europe. So the European Research & Development center (ERD) was created in Le Pecq near Paris, to design most of the worldwide modems and software needed for the Macs and PowerBooks (the internal 2400 PowerBook modem, the different Express Modem boards and soft engine, the Geoport Telecom Adapter pod, but also the French AppleDjinn and Djinn Pro or the 33.6k CommSlot modem, the PowerBop wireless CT2 hardware module, the Apple Telecom software 1/2/3 and scripts or the never released Apple Telecom 3.5 suite, the never release all-in-one Paladdin Mac communications suite...)
When Apple decided back to outsource all internal modems boards to Asante, Global Village, then Ambit on the PowerBook G3 Series and iMac, the whole european engineering team was fired, and the offices were closed. But I was friend with several wiz(es) from there, and I was invited when they were abandoning the site. So I could save some units from the bin, including early development units and boards.
The remainder came from the different Apple friends I had in Europe, who all knew I was a fan of such type of products. Like the early IIGS white keyboard (fitted with two female ADB ports).
They were mainly sold by France Telecom, the historic french phone company, so they could be found on the rare computer swaps,or on our local "Craig-style-list" named LeBonCoin:
Here's one I just found, for around twenty bucks: http://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/773121220.htm
Just remember that there was the original 2400bds AppleDjinn (with a serial cable coming from back of enclosure and the j11 connector on the side), and the 14400Bds AppleDjinnPro (with female serial and RJ11 connectors on the back); the power supplies also differ in voltage and connector... Good luck !
The BookCaSE was apparently a conversion kit in Japan. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=2979
Oh, and you may check this page on the Wayback Archive, to retrieve old previously published pictures:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080216101427/http://www.gete.net/book/dossiers/prototypes/
(better Cmd-click on the images, to open a new tab and not lose the main page each time)
http://web.archive.org/web/20080216101427/http://www.gete.net/book/dossiers/prototypes/
(better Cmd-click on the images, to open a new tab and not lose the main page each time)
For the record, the BookCaSE conversion kit was intended to be filled with the PowerBook 5300 parts, and this (cast aluminium) enclosure and cable kit was offered to me by its designer. More info on the product could be found at http://retromaccast....one-heard-of-it and http://homepage2.nifty.com/56thWAREHOUSE/POWERBOOK/PB/BOOKCASE.html
Q77 was the codename of the June 2004 PMG5 revision, the one with 970fx chips, and 1.8, 2.0 and 2.5LC dual processor models.That BookCaSE thing intrigues and pleases me greatly... as does this entire thread in fact!
I am curious as to what the machine is with the anodised G5-esque case.
And sometimes, when digging back in you photo database, you even find pictures of some clear prototypes that you were NOT able to salvage at this time, sigh !
So this WAS my clear Mac II si, with its clear monochrome 12" monitor: A nice combination for a compact Mac. I don't think someone else could rescue it from the bin...
So this WAS my clear Mac II si, with its clear monochrome 12" monitor: A nice combination for a compact Mac. I don't think someone else could rescue it from the bin...
Well played, sir.
Rather than relying on y'all to google it, I went out and did the heavy lifting myself.
Scratch what I thought it was. This C610/Q610 has the same nameplate. Not sure what's up with that.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071030224401/http://www.gete.net/book/dossiers/prototypes/media/produits/Teapot/whole_mac_teapot.jpg
And also, there is the Mac OS watch that people will pay $3,000 for. I actually prefer the lava lamp clock and the wall clock. And why does the iMac G3 desk thing
have the HP logo on it?
How did I just find this thread? It looks like it has been going for a while.
have the HP logo on it?How did I just find this thread? It looks like it has been going for a while.
Some answers for Garrett:
Although the speaker seems gone, the cooler radio is actually working well: the speaker membrane is still in a pristine state... it is just a transparent membrane.
The iMac G3 clock is a promo gift from HP when they entered back the Mac market with their USB-based DeskJet printers, i.e by supplying their PC-based printers with Mac OS drivers from by Palomar Software (see details at http://www.palomar.com/About/History.html).
Just remember that HP had previously stopped shipping their Mac-only DeskWriter printers line, and then signed -the worst deal ever done by Apple- to sell rebranded DeskWriter models under ... the StyleWriter 4100 and 4500 names ! (if you forgot this, see http://shrineofapple.com/blog/2011/07/23/colorstylewriter4100/or http://tim.id.au/laptops/apple/misc/color_stylewriter_4500.4100.pdf
But nobody inquired more about this mythic Golden Apple Club, so I'm adding two other clues...
- One is another time destination for this Club.
- The second one is the specific pin that you would generally get when invited there:
http://lecollector.net/product/rare-vintage-apple-computer-lapel-pin-golden-apple-club-18k/
Although the speaker seems gone, the cooler radio is actually working well: the speaker membrane is still in a pristine state... it is just a transparent membrane.
The iMac G3 clock is a promo gift from HP when they entered back the Mac market with their USB-based DeskJet printers, i.e by supplying their PC-based printers with Mac OS drivers from by Palomar Software (see details at http://www.palomar.com/About/History.html).
Just remember that HP had previously stopped shipping their Mac-only DeskWriter printers line, and then signed -the worst deal ever done by Apple- to sell rebranded DeskWriter models under ... the StyleWriter 4100 and 4500 names ! (if you forgot this, see http://shrineofapple.com/blog/2011/07/23/colorstylewriter4100/or http://tim.id.au/laptops/apple/misc/color_stylewriter_4500.4100.pdf
But nobody inquired more about this mythic Golden Apple Club, so I'm adding two other clues...
- One is another time destination for this Club.
- The second one is the specific pin that you would generally get when invited there:
http://lecollector.net/product/rare-vintage-apple-computer-lapel-pin-golden-apple-club-18k/