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3 things for $10 a piece. Which one should I grab?
So, I have a choice. Sadly, I don't have enough for all 3, sadly.
There is a Power Macintosh G3 233mhz desktop form factor. I don't see any other specs than CPU speed, but I have a MT already, and I had a AIO. Nice machines with interchangeable motherboards. I think it would be kind of redundant to have the same machine basically (the MT and the AIO's old board are both 233mhz.)
the second is a Laserwriter 4/600 PS. Nice printer, from what I have read. I have a network laserwriter, but it does not work, but still has a toner cartridge, which from what I have read can be damn expensive.
The last, and my pick, is a original Macintosh II. It looks to be a model with a hard drive (I have never even SEEN a 5.25" HD), as it has a single floppy disk. It also seems to be in some sort of vertical stand, as that is how it looks in the photo. Again, no specs on RAM. It has the 68020, which I have owned the only other machine Apple ever shipped with one, the original Macintosh LC.
So, which one should I go snag?
There is a Power Macintosh G3 233mhz desktop form factor. I don't see any other specs than CPU speed, but I have a MT already, and I had a AIO. Nice machines with interchangeable motherboards. I think it would be kind of redundant to have the same machine basically (the MT and the AIO's old board are both 233mhz.)
the second is a Laserwriter 4/600 PS. Nice printer, from what I have read. I have a network laserwriter, but it does not work, but still has a toner cartridge, which from what I have read can be damn expensive.
The last, and my pick, is a original Macintosh II. It looks to be a model with a hard drive (I have never even SEEN a 5.25" HD), as it has a single floppy disk. It also seems to be in some sort of vertical stand, as that is how it looks in the photo. Again, no specs on RAM. It has the 68020, which I have owned the only other machine Apple ever shipped with one, the original Macintosh LC.
So, which one should I go snag?
My MacII was upgraded (before I acquired it) with a IIx's motherboard. The harddrive was still a 3.5" one. The upgrade included a 1440kd floppy so now it's a dual floppy machine.
The downside of an original II is they need a PMMU before they can run A/UX or NetBSD etc.
I would personally take the Mac II since I like those machines and need one for the collection.
I have a 4/600 PS printer and it works fine, a bit slow at 4PPM but works with just about any serial equipped mac and does 600 DPI along with having a low power use mode when on and not printing (there is no on/off switch). Can be upgraded from 2MB to 6MB of RAM but that is not common to find.
I have a G3 desktop (300Mhz 1MB RAM) they are ok but I prefer the Towers (have a 433 tower). You need to make sure that the ROM supports slave devices or you have fewer options for adding drives (unless you use an ATA card or SCSI card).
I have a 4/600 PS printer and it works fine, a bit slow at 4PPM but works with just about any serial equipped mac and does 600 DPI along with having a low power use mode when on and not printing (there is no on/off switch). Can be upgraded from 2MB to 6MB of RAM but that is not common to find.
I have a G3 desktop (300Mhz 1MB RAM) they are ok but I prefer the Towers (have a 433 tower). You need to make sure that the ROM supports slave devices or you have fewer options for adding drives (unless you use an ATA card or SCSI card).
Did you get it to run System 6?
1MB cache, sorry.
+ 1 for Mac II
alright, I shot them an email about the Mac II, asking them what precise model it was (I hope a IIfx, but I doubt I am THAT lucky.) Hopefully they know the exact specs of it, and who knows, it might have some super ultra mega rare card in it. One can only hope.
Gonna see when I can pick it up. Hopefully before the weekend. Nothing about a monitor, but I have a couple DB-15s I can use, or one of my VGAs if I can ever find my adapter again. Little bugger is too small...
Gonna see when I can pick it up. Hopefully before the weekend. Nothing about a monitor, but I have a couple DB-15s I can use, or one of my VGAs if I can ever find my adapter again. Little bugger is too small...
Well, I just got this from the person:
sounds like quite a deal. I may even see if I can trade them anything.
Ooooo, sweet, lucky! Good luck with your II 
I love my II, but unfortunately, the monitor I have a card for died (it was one of those "The Big Picture" things). And I'm sure the battery's dead by now.
It's a really nice machine though. The hard drive is quite a sight to see
It's a really nice machine though. The hard drive is quite a sight to see
You mean the video was for a dual page monochrome monitor?
ok, this sounds really interesting:
I am going to pick it up on Friday. It's almost an hour's drive to go get it, and that is on a good day! Oh well, it will be worth it.
an original Macintosh II with battery holders? I thought those did not exist!!
I am going to pick it up on Friday. It's almost an hour's drive to go get it, and that is on a good day! Oh well, it will be worth it.
Weell, if you want something useful, I'd say the LaserWriter, but speaking as a loyal soldier, I say:
$10?? LIBERATE NAOW
They exist, its a little board soldered into the space with 2 battery holders. You can still find the older batteries you solder in place on ebay on a normal mac II.
Get the II! Even if its an hour's drive, DEFINITELY worth it
Alright, I just got back with this baby. She's got an 80mb 5.25" HD. I dunno what happened to the other HD that he said was in it, but he probably swapped it out. no SCSI cable, but I have plenty (he needed it for something else). It has the weird socket battery mod, I must take pics of this.
There are 3 slots on the back uncovered, but only one card, the video card, which is just the standard "Macintosh II video card" AFAIK.
For an additional $5, I got:
an Apple Extended Keyboard II, with no cable, a Connectix webcam (I was told it's black and white, but you never know), and a Daystar Nubus accelerator.
He said the accelerator would not fit, but I just popped the cover, and it hooked in just fine!! I might have a nice fast Mac II here in a bit. The chip on the accelerator says "XC68040RC33M", so am I to assume it's a Full 68040 proc running at 33mhz? Will it work with this machine?
I also noticed the machine had 8,192k of RAM (8mb), and was running System 7.5.1 on it.
Does this call for A/UX? Or won't it work?
Now I just need to hook a CD-ROM to it (I am going to hook an internal one on the main SCSI chain with the HD, or can't I do this?)
edit: the accelerator LOOKS like it will fit, but the connector is longer. Is this some sort of "extended" nubus, or is it a PDS? If either way, is there an adapter I can get so it will work, or is this one of those square pegs in round holes type things?
-digital
There are 3 slots on the back uncovered, but only one card, the video card, which is just the standard "Macintosh II video card" AFAIK.
For an additional $5, I got:
an Apple Extended Keyboard II, with no cable, a Connectix webcam (I was told it's black and white, but you never know), and a Daystar Nubus accelerator.
He said the accelerator would not fit, but I just popped the cover, and it hooked in just fine!! I might have a nice fast Mac II here in a bit. The chip on the accelerator says "XC68040RC33M", so am I to assume it's a Full 68040 proc running at 33mhz? Will it work with this machine?
I also noticed the machine had 8,192k of RAM (8mb), and was running System 7.5.1 on it.
Does this call for A/UX? Or won't it work?
Now I just need to hook a CD-ROM to it (I am going to hook an internal one on the main SCSI chain with the HD, or can't I do this?)
edit: the accelerator LOOKS like it will fit, but the connector is longer. Is this some sort of "extended" nubus, or is it a PDS? If either way, is there an adapter I can get so it will work, or is this one of those square pegs in round holes type things?
-digital
I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer.
iamdigitalman, you may find ChristTrekker's A/UX FAQ useful:
http://christtrek.dyndns.org:8000/doc/aux/faq.html
http://christtrek.dyndns.org:8000/doc/aux/faq.html
yeah, I know what it needs to run it, but will it run? How do I tell if it has what it needs to? I don't need a 68030 upgrade, do I?
if so, I might try to put system 6.0.8 on it. Imagine how fast it would run...
if so, I might try to put system 6.0.8 on it. Imagine how fast it would run...
yes, A/UX was supported on the II with PMMU. Look for a big square empty socket on the motherboard.
No, that's what I have which is basically a IIx motherboard in a II case.
Get the II. The printer is nice but they're a dime a dozen on the used market.
Yes, the toners for the 4/600s can be expensive. Office Max wanted over $100 for one. I bought one on eBay for $30 instead.
Yes, the toners for the 4/600s can be expensive. Office Max wanted over $100 for one. I bought one on eBay for $30 instead.
8-o
You scored a Daystar PowerCache in a $5 job lot?
I FREAKING HATE YOU!!!!
Nubus: 96 pins
PDS: 120 pins
Post a pic or scan of the Daystar card. Apart from that, see sig. I ain't helping you no more! [
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Oh, OK, one more bit o' help: for the love of god, do not power up that Mac with the Daystar "in" it, however you have managed to make it "fit"
I will have to scan the card later.
A quick google search indicates the powercache was an 030. Unless there was a 040 version. Maybe it's a Turbo 040? There are some labels of numbers on the back side, I am sure those tell what it is.
Wish I still had my LC III, I could use it in one of them, sans top case. It might work in my LC 520 I have...
if not, I could resell it...
-digital
A quick google search indicates the powercache was an 030. Unless there was a 040 version. Maybe it's a Turbo 040? There are some labels of numbers on the back side, I am sure those tell what it is.
Wish I still had my LC III, I could use it in one of them, sans top case. It might work in my LC 520 I have...
if not, I could resell it...
-digital
They only work directly (without expensive adapters) on a IIci, even if it fits into something else it will fry once you turn the machine on.
A quick search of these forums would tell you a lot, too
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Bunsen: For someone who complains so much about people not searching and then making posts, you sure make a lot of useless posts.
I suggest we have an "Ask Bunsen" forum so all the duplicated questions, asking the bleeding obvious, etc all get moved there.
We can then turn that forum into a Turing Test to see if Bunsen is real.
We can then turn that forum into a Turing Test to see if Bunsen is real.
Well, it seems Bunsen does not like me
I did a search on these forums for both terms, but nothing came up. I ALWAYS search before I ask.
Oh well...
In any case, I tried booting the II from 3 separate 6.0.3 boot disks I have, and I got a smiling mac for a second, and then rejection. I tried the disks in my 540c, and they all mounted fine, so I have a bad disk drive. I should have known when the disks would not go into the drive easily, I had to take the top cover off to load them into it. So now I need to hunt down a replacement (I think I have some FDHD drives, which I have used as 800K only drives in the past just fine.), or I might rip the unit apart and clean it up a bit.
Until I can get it to boot, I will take the beastly 5.25" HD into another mac and attempt to put 7.5.3 on it, and update that to 7.5.5.
-digital
I did a search on these forums for both terms, but nothing came up. I ALWAYS search before I ask.
Oh well...
In any case, I tried booting the II from 3 separate 6.0.3 boot disks I have, and I got a smiling mac for a second, and then rejection. I tried the disks in my 540c, and they all mounted fine, so I have a bad disk drive. I should have known when the disks would not go into the drive easily, I had to take the top cover off to load them into it. So now I need to hunt down a replacement (I think I have some FDHD drives, which I have used as 800K only drives in the past just fine.), or I might rip the unit apart and clean it up a bit.
Until I can get it to boot, I will take the beastly 5.25" HD into another mac and attempt to put 7.5.3 on it, and update that to 7.5.5.
-digital