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Asante MacCon problem with SE/30

Asante MacCon problem with SE/30 Networking 13 posts Mar 31, 2015 — Nov 6, 2016

#1 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 - 16:17

I finally found an Asante Mac Con for my SE/30-- This one has the Thick/Thin option.

I've got the board installed and connected to a Farallon Ether 10T Starlet 8 Hub, and I installed the Asante 5.6.0 drivers and MacTCP 1.1.1. I have a PC connected to the 10-Base-T side of the hub, and the SE/30 is on the thin coax side.

Problem is -- I can't ping the Mac from the PC.

I've static IP's set on both the SE/30 and the PC. Mac is running 7.1 and the PC is XP. The PC shows a 10MB connection. There's a Red LED on the MacCon that is on solid all the time.

I run the Asante diagnostics and I can see the card. All the tests pass and see packets being received, although it's not a lot of packets.

I didn't see any extensions installed for the MacCon, I assume the installer modified the System File.

Don't know why this isn't working-- Am I missing something here?

#2 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 - 18:43

Ugh. I've had a lot of issues with ethernet cards and the SE/30. Even when I had the actual software disk, I couldn't get them to work by just installing the card and drivers. The only way I could get them to work is to do a clean install of System 7 with ALL the network options selected.

After that, I didn't even need the driver disk that came with the card. It would work with the Apple software. Then I'd install MacTCP and it'd work fine.

#3 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 - 18:44

Also, do you have a crossover ethernet cable? Could be a problem with the hub. Maybe try a 10/100 switch.

#4 Wed, 1 Apr 2015 - 04:53

Open Transport 1.1.1 solved the problem. I had a really old version of MacTCP-- It was 1.1.1 I think.

I couldn't find MacTCP 2.0.6-- maybe that would have worked.

#5 Wed, 1 Apr 2015 - 14:55

olePigeon said:
Ugh. I've had a lot of issues with ethernet cards and the SE/30. Even when I had the actual software disk, I couldn't get them to work by just installing the card and drivers. The only way I could get them to work is to do a clean install of System 7 with ALL the network options selected.

The Network Software Installer (NSI) disk should fix that more easily. It'll provide the latest versions of Appletalk and EtherTalk (ie LocalTalk and Ethernet drivers), on which to install the vendor driver if it is not present. Always install the vendor driver; the Apple driver is generic and may not enable cache RAM. The NSI supports System 6 to 7.1ish; later versions of System 7 incorporated the NSI.

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MacTCP is not fully loaded on boot. It is fully loaded after you run a TCP/IP application.

If you try to ping a freshly booted Mac with MacTCP, it will not respond. If you run Telnet or Netscape, MacTCP will kick in and respond to ping.

Open Transport is fully loaded on boot.

#6 Wed, 1 Apr 2015 - 16:36

The Asante drivers were installed and I ran the NSI ZM1.5.1 as well, and I tried running MacTCP Ping on the SE/30. No luck. That's when I went to OT.

Problem now is I can't switch back to classic networking to try anything else with MacTCP. The Network Software Selector throws an error and says "The application that created it can't be found"

#7 Wed, 1 Apr 2015 - 17:16

Thanks for the feedback, rickrob. You are connecting to a Farallon Starnet hub. Are you connecting to the internet beyond, or are you just using a private network?

As you say, it is too late to experiment much further. The Network Software Selector, as I recall, requires a reboot and is a bit flaky if you update system software after installing Open Transport. Try updating to OT 1.1.2.

#8 Wed, 1 Apr 2015 - 17:35

Charlieman said:
Thanks for the feedback, rickrob. You are connecting to a Farallon Starnet hub. Are you connecting to the internet beyond, or are you just using a private network?

As you say, it is too late to experiment much further. The Network Software Selector, as I recall, requires a reboot and is a bit flaky if you update system software after installing Open Transport. Try updating to OT 1.1.2.

I'm on a private network for now, but I can connect to the internet through the hub using the PC. I'm OK with Open transport-- my Color Classsic is set up the same way. It would have been nice to figure out what the problem was. I even installed a clean system 7.1 and reinstalled all the drivers, NSI, MacTCP etc... nothing seemed to work.

But it's working with OT, so I'll be happy with that.

I 'll try OT 1.1.2 and see what happens.

Thanks for the help everyone.

#9 Thu, 2 Apr 2015 - 21:27

Rickrob, that was my experience with NSI. It wouldn't work. I got it to work with MacTCP 2.x after a clean install with network options as I mentioned before.

#10 Thu, 2 Apr 2015 - 22:33

I got this working with MacTCP 2.1 last night. I don't know what happened, but when I got home and started the machine up it would not work again-- even with OT 1.1.2

I tried the Asante diags again and they compalined that Appletalk was on ethernet. Told me to go to the Network Control panel and change it. But, the network control panel isn't there because I installed OT... and Appletalk was setup on the printer port in the Appletak CDev. So I tossed out network preferences, zapped the PRAM, rebuilt the desktop and then the Network control panel shows back up, along with MacTCP 1.1.1. :?: That must have switched it back to classic networking.

I reconfigured everything and fired up MacTCP Ping and everything worked. Updated MacTCP to 2.1 and all is well. Ran the OT 1.1.2 installer and removed it.

Had a couple of disk errors that I had to fix with Norton DD. Don't know if that was a contributing factor. I wonder if it'll work when I get home today... Ha!

#11 Fri, 3 Apr 2015 - 14:46

And... It stopped working. :-/ Fired it up last night and nothing. Same error from the Asante diags. Broke out the 7.1 CD and did a clean install with network options. Everything worked right away with no other drivers. Tried it this morning and it's still working.