what i need, now that i've found the 8.1 iso as a return path, is to be able to modify or create a bootable cdrom, one that contains the proper utilities [ apple sc hd setup for example ] to setup an a/ux partition, and copy/install NetBSD. i dont have any floppies here at home, and they've become scarce in the stores as well. im not certain if my floppy drive even works, i can't test it.