Thanks Luddite. I did find out how to do it on Ciderpress by using someone else's computer. It's quite annoying to have to do that. I am using ProTerm now, and it seems very nice. I'll need to do more tweaking to get it just the way I want it, but overall very nice. Too bad it doesn't support color or any of the other effects. But then, Apple II text mode can't really do that anyway.