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Apple II internet
As some may know by now, I have a Apple IIgs that I'm getting set up.
I already have my 3400c connected to the internet, is there any way I can route the internet to the IIgs via a LocalTalk cable? I just want to do it for the lulz, you know, to update my facebook status or something for shock value.
Thanks in advance.
I already have my 3400c connected to the internet, is there any way I can route the internet to the IIgs via a LocalTalk cable? I just want to do it for the lulz, you know, to update my facebook status or something for shock value.
Thanks in advance.
I think so, but I think it's probably going to be more work than you want to do for the 'lulz.' You'll want to start reading about Marinetti and Spectrum:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/marinetti/
http://www.gwlink.net/sis/
You may also want to look at IPNetRouter on the Mac.
http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipr_overview.html
It's $89 and you need a lot of patience and a degree in network technology to set it up. I got it to work once, before the demo expired, but it was way more work than worth.
http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipr_overview.html
It's $89 and you need a lot of patience and a degree in network technology to set it up. I got it to work once, before the demo expired, but it was way more work than worth.
Wouldn't it consist of running some router app on the Mac and then connect to that with the IIgs? Sorry, but networking isn't my strong point, possibly I should call some local networking business and ask them to help? 
That's what IPNetRouter does.
Is there a free alternative to IPNetRouter?
Not for MacOS... the free alternative would be to install some form of UNIX, but that's not exactly the easy way out ;-)
There's always the option of getting a dial-up shell account and getting online that way. You can get a free account at http://www.chebucto.ca. If you're in the US or Canada long distance is cheap enough to make it a viable solution.
There's always the option of getting a dial-up shell account and getting online that way. You can get a free account at http://www.chebucto.ca. If you're in the US or Canada long distance is cheap enough to make it a viable solution.
Here's how I plan to get my //e connected:
I have a Super Serial Card and a b&w Power Macintosh G3. I've got the G3 configured with OS 10.2.8 such that its serial ports (printer and modem) are open for tty connections. The //e can then run any competent terminal emulation software to login. If I install wget or lynx on the G3, then I can use one of those via the //e.
An Apple IIgs has built-in emulation of the Super Serial Card, (as does the //c, IIRC) so you wouldn't need it for those machines.
I have a Super Serial Card and a b&w Power Macintosh G3. I've got the G3 configured with OS 10.2.8 such that its serial ports (printer and modem) are open for tty connections. The //e can then run any competent terminal emulation software to login. If I install wget or lynx on the G3, then I can use one of those via the //e.
An Apple IIgs has built-in emulation of the Super Serial Card, (as does the //c, IIRC) so you wouldn't need it for those machines.
If you have an OS X box that lacks serial ports, you can get USB/8-pin serial adaptors pretty cheap. Then all you need is an 8-pin Mac printer cable to go between.
If you're going that direction, you have lots of company:
http://dataswamp.net/apple2eserialterm/index.php
http://www.bytecellar.com/archives/000113.php
http://web.textfiles.com/computers/linux.gs.login
http://pdw.weinstein.org/2007/06/apple-hacking-for-fun-and-profit.html
Correction to my post above: that should say desktop/platinum G3, NOT blue & white G3!!
Also, I tried ProTERM 3.1 last evening on the IIgs. It did not work! I must do more research!
Also, I tried ProTERM 3.1 last evening on the IIgs. It did not work! I must do more research!
You couldn't get it working? I did. You will need to manipulate the SHK's on Cidepress according to the manual's instructions for file placement. When I get home I could send you some 5.25 disk images if you want, because I just got my 3.5 drives yesterday and I haven't made a 3.5 disk version of proterm yet.
What I mean to say is, I got it running and everything, but I could not get it to connect to the G3. So, I found another program called DCOM which worked just fine.
All you need is.... Appleshare 3 
Remote boot a IIgs over localtalk from a performa. I still have the software, but my IIgs and other stuff got stolen
Remote boot a IIgs over localtalk from a performa. I still have the software, but my IIgs and other stuff got stolen
And lots of spare time ;-)All you need is.... Appleshare 3
I recall doing that and the boot time was several minutes... though to be fair, I may not have had it set up correctly.
I think you probably did.And lots of spare time ;-)All you need is.... Appleshare 3
I recall doing that and the boot time was several minutes... though to be fair, I may not have had it set up correctly.
Here's Ken Fager's photo log of doing just that:
I did this quite a few months ago with same setup (Classic and a IIgs). Amusing, yes, but it's easier just to use a disk with AppleShare and put the Finder on the Classic, IMO.
If you had an ethernet port, do you think an Apple II would be able to use a wireless bridge to connect to a router?
I do that to my 386, but its actually dealing with all of it by itself, this configuration all the 'heavy lifting' is done on a much more powerful computer and just sent to the // as serial info
Speaking of IPNetRouter, according to this page http://www.sustworks.com/site/news_promo.html, you can use the original version for free. Of course you'd need a 68k Mac/Powermac as well as MacOS 7.6 and OT (http://www.sustworks.com/site/downloads.html). If I ever want to use it I will be very glad of my Performa 6100 as it has 7.6
Anyone have any idea how to use SLIP to connect an Apple II to a PC running Windows XP and get internet? It seems like a plausibly doable solutions, but some pointers would be helpful.