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Apple II internet

68kMLA Networking 21 posts Jun 23, 2009 to May 7, 2010

#1 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 - 05:35 68kMLA

As some may know by now, I have a Apple IIgs that I'm getting set up.

I already have my 3400c connected to the internet, is there any way I can route the internet to the IIgs via a LocalTalk cable? I just want to do it for the lulz, you know, to update my facebook status or something for shock value.

Thanks in advance.

#2 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 - 11:51 68kMLA

is there any way I can route the internet to the IIgs via a LocalTalk cable?

I think so, but I think it's probably going to be more work than you want to do for the 'lulz.' You'll want to start reading about Marinetti and Spectrum:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/marinetti/

http://www.gwlink.net/sis/

#3 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 - 16:29 68kMLA

You may also want to look at IPNetRouter on the Mac.

http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipr_overview.html

It's $89 and you need a lot of patience and a degree in network technology to set it up. I got it to work once, before the demo expired, but it was way more work than worth.

#4 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 - 00:40 68kMLA

Wouldn't it consist of running some router app on the Mac and then connect to that with the IIgs? Sorry, but networking isn't my strong point, possibly I should call some local networking business and ask them to help?

#5 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 - 01:01 68kMLA

That's what IPNetRouter does.

#6 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 - 18:03 68kMLA

Is there a free alternative to IPNetRouter?

#7 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 - 20:36 68kMLA

Not for MacOS... the free alternative would be to install some form of UNIX, but that's not exactly the easy way out ;-)

There's always the option of getting a dial-up shell account and getting online that way. You can get a free account at http://www.chebucto.ca. If you're in the US or Canada long distance is cheap enough to make it a viable solution.

#8 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 - 20:56 68kMLA

Here's how I plan to get my //e connected:

I have a Super Serial Card and a b&w Power Macintosh G3. I've got the G3 configured with OS 10.2.8 such that its serial ports (printer and modem) are open for tty connections. The //e can then run any competent terminal emulation software to login. If I install wget or lynx on the G3, then I can use one of those via the //e.

An Apple IIgs has built-in emulation of the Super Serial Card, (as does the //c, IIRC) so you wouldn't need it for those machines.

#9 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 - 01:17 68kMLA

If you have an OS X box that lacks serial ports, you can get USB/8-pin serial adaptors pretty cheap. Then all you need is an 8-pin Mac printer cable to go between.

#10 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 - 02:05 68kMLA

The //e can then run any competent terminal emulation software to login.

If you're going that direction, you have lots of company:

http://dataswamp.net/apple2eserialterm/index.php

http://www.bytecellar.com/archives/000113.php

http://web.textfiles.com/computers/linux.gs.login

http://pdw.weinstein.org/2007/06/apple-hacking-for-fun-and-profit.html

#11 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 - 17:13 68kMLA

Correction to my post above: that should say desktop/platinum G3, NOT blue & white G3!!

Also, I tried ProTERM 3.1 last evening on the IIgs. It did not work! I must do more research!

#12 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 - 14:40 68kMLA

You couldn't get it working? I did. You will need to manipulate the SHK's on Cidepress according to the manual's instructions for file placement. When I get home I could send you some 5.25 disk images if you want, because I just got my 3.5 drives yesterday and I haven't made a 3.5 disk version of proterm yet.

#13 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 - 22:23 68kMLA

What I mean to say is, I got it running and everything, but I could not get it to connect to the G3. So, I found another program called DCOM which worked just fine.

#14 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 - 18:11 68kMLA

All you need is.... Appleshare 3

Remote boot a IIgs over localtalk from a performa. I still have the software, but my IIgs and other stuff got stolen

#15 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 - 20:05 68kMLA

All you need is.... Appleshare 3

And lots of spare time ;-)

I recall doing that and the boot time was several minutes... though to be fair, I may not have had it set up correctly.

#16 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 - 01:23 68kMLA

All you need is.... Appleshare 3

Click to expand...

And lots of spare time ;-)

I recall doing that and the boot time was several minutes... though to be fair, I may not have had it set up correctly.

I think you probably did.

Here's Ken Fager's photo log of doing just that:

#17 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 - 15:51 68kMLA

I did this quite a few months ago with same setup (Classic and a IIgs). Amusing, yes, but it's easier just to use a disk with AppleShare and put the Finder on the Classic, IMO.

#18 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 - 19:30 68kMLA

If you had an ethernet port, do you think an Apple II would be able to use a wireless bridge to connect to a router?

#19 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 - 19:41 68kMLA

I do that to my 386, but its actually dealing with all of it by itself, this configuration all the 'heavy lifting' is done on a much more powerful computer and just sent to the // as serial info

#20 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 - 00:28 68kMLA

Speaking of IPNetRouter, according to this page http://www.sustworks.com/site/news_promo.html, you can use the original version for free. Of course you'd need a 68k Mac/Powermac as well as MacOS 7.6 and OT (http://www.sustworks.com/site/downloads.html). If I ever want to use it I will be very glad of my Performa 6100 as it has 7.6

#21 Fri, 7 May 2010 - 01:37 68kMLA

Anyone have any idea how to use SLIP to connect an Apple II to a PC running Windows XP and get internet? It seems like a plausibly doable solutions, but some pointers would be helpful.