well heres an update, i finally got around to trying something on it.  I got out an old dell big crt monitor.  If i remember right it supported up to 1280x1024.  Anyway i hooked up the system to it and bingo got a picture with a flashing floppy disc.  This is on the board that has the smt capacitors.  The hd makes a clicking sound, so i think that is shot.  So since i have another spare II that came with a 3 1/2 in hd not the bigfoot quantum this one has, ill try that hd.  Plus I now just need to get ahold of or make a set of system 7.5 disks for it to do a fresh install. So i guess it was the flat panel and its signaling versus the old crt one.