It probably takes a bit of getting used to, this is the first time i've ever played around with any pre os 7.5 system so it should be fun. On another happy note, the PRAM battery seems to be working again , must have been cause it was plugged in for a while now. Will confirm tommorow if it is good or not, but considering it didn't jump around while i was seting it, I'd say its a definite improvement. Anyways I'm off to bed for the night, its amazing how time flies when doing stuff liek this (its 1:45 am here). Also, whats the difference between the 1.4meg and 800k versions of update 3?