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Power Macintosh 8100/110, Kybrd+ Mouse and 2 DUAL HDs
Hey everyone just found a Power Macintosh 8100/110 on the curb in NYC. It has a MaCally Keyboard and a Kensington Mouse. Tons of upgrades towards the rear. Looks like it was a video system. There was this rack mountable Video serve something or other that I did not take because my Mom was already fuming at everything I was taking. On the curb where also not 1 but 2 Dual HD Scsi Enclosure labeled "ProMax" One has a door in the front and it contains Dual Seagate Barracudas, and the other you can open but it does not have a door. Both have two Scsi number dials on the back. I'm not going to power on the machine because there was a rain storm today, and hopefully the machine did not get affected. I'll leave it un powered for 2 days. I tested both the HD enclosures and they seem to work. Both drives spin up on both of them. The 8100/110 has minimal yellowing only on the plastics on the front and back. But I opened it up and $%@! How do you do anything in there?! Has a huge (in physical size) HD and CD-ROM and Floppy disk. Saved it from the curb. Awesome.
Getting a 512k soon as well.
Getting a 512k soon as well.
lucky! I saw a CL ad for a Macintosh SE on the curb but my mom didn't let me drive up there. > 
Sneak out at night.... }lucky! I saw a CL ad for a Macintosh SE on the curb but my mom didn't let me drive up there. >
Probably a Videovision setup?
Yes. That was it.
Nice, the cards still inside the unit?
One of the better kerb scores of recent memory, indeed. Congratulations!
But:
Also, I'd suggest more than two days to dry - four to a week, with the covers off, in a warm dry spot like on top of a fridge or a high cupboard.
But:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! 8-o :-/
Also, I'd suggest more than two days to dry - four to a week, with the covers off, in a warm dry spot like on top of a fridge or a high cupboard.
Yes Tons of cards, I believe two graphics cards, and two scsi. I may be wrong.
I am sorry to dissapoint you.One of the better kerb scores of recent memory, indeed. Congratulations!
But:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! 8-o :-/
Also, I'd suggest more than two days to dry - four to a week, with the covers off, in a warm dry spot like on top of a fridge or a high cupboard.
I don't even think the PowerMac and the Video thingy went together TBH, But I am very happy with my score. If the HDs worked correctly don't you think it would be OK? I'll leave it to Tom, I looked inside the case and it was dry and dusty. But ya never know... I can't wait to see what software I have just scored on all those HDs!*I am not going to read the users files though
No boot. I powered it on. Its getting power, because when I remove the cord it does like a zip sound.
HD and CD Drive both work. I plugged in an external Molex thing and they both powered up. Ahh if its dead, I still can get some nice parts out of it, It has loads of RAM.
HD and CD Drive both work. I plugged in an external Molex thing and they both powered up. Ahh if its dead, I still can get some nice parts out of it, It has loads of RAM.
Can you make a list of the cards and if you are keepig them all? if there is a capture board (now missing its breakout box) it is kind of useless to you, but I might need it.
OK. So It has:
One PCI video card with slots for Dimms. Keeping.
One NuBus SCSI Card. Keeping
Another Nubus SCSI Card. Not sure.
Nubus Video DB-15 and what (looks like) a VGA Input. It is female. On the same board is a DB-15 Output.
I would like to test these cards if the machine indeed does work. If it does not I would be keeping The first SCSI Card and maybe first video card.
I am unsure of everything. Haha
The two HDs in the Dual enclosure that IS openable are: ST39173LC
IntarWebs tells me that they are 9gbs.
IntarWebs tells me that they are 9gbs.
Water can be perniciously persistent and penetrative. It can soak in under and between components and remain trapped in there for days until driven out by heat or dry air.
When you say "No boot" - what are the exact symptoms? Do you get any signs of life at all? Drives spinning up, lights, etc. The reason I ask is that stripping this machine could well be premature - it may be as simple as needing a new motherboard battery, or a power supply. This "zip sound" of which you speak doesn't tell us much.
When you say "No boot" - what are the exact symptoms? Do you get any signs of life at all? Drives spinning up, lights, etc. The reason I ask is that stripping this machine could well be premature - it may be as simple as needing a new motherboard battery, or a power supply. This "zip sound" of which you speak doesn't tell us much.
Top of the line, several thousand dollar PowerMac with dual drives and multiple Nubus/RAM upgrades (as would have been found in many a mid-late '90s video production shop), and a "Video serve thingy". My money is very much on them belonging together, and at least one of your cards being useless without that box.
There's no PCI in an 8100. That'll be a PDS card.
*sigh*
Perhaps you should seek advice before acting, then.
I am unsure of what the cards are.
Thanks for the tip, Ithought it was PCI
Well I plug the machine in and it does pretty much nothing. No Sound no light nothing. But when I pull out the power cord from the back it does make a sound which sounds like electricity is leaving. Ziiiiiippp. There is a possibility that it is PRAM. But it does nothing no HD no Fan no Chime. I am not going to strip it until I find the condition of it.
Thanks for the Help!
it's a *MacALLY* keyboard. one of my ADB mice is a MacALLY one.
I can help identify the cards if you can take a few pictures.
Any markings or writing on the cards could be useful in determining what function they serve.
I'd remove the cover from the case then leave the computer in a window or other area known to warm for about a week.
If the machine does not show any additional signs of life, I'd strip it. Then leave the components to air dry individually and possibly help the process with a can of air or two.
After that I'd try a test bench boot. This would be just the mobo, power supply, video card, 1 stick of RAM, keyboard and a monitor on top of a desk or similarly flat surface. Fire that sucker up and see if it boots. If so, then I would reassemble the unit and enjoy using it.
I would also check the mobo for leaking / bulging caps.
I'd remove the cover from the case then leave the computer in a window or other area known to warm for about a week.
If the machine does not show any additional signs of life, I'd strip it. Then leave the components to air dry individually and possibly help the process with a can of air or two.
After that I'd try a test bench boot. This would be just the mobo, power supply, video card, 1 stick of RAM, keyboard and a monitor on top of a desk or similarly flat surface. Fire that sucker up and see if it boots. If so, then I would reassemble the unit and enjoy using it.
I would also check the mobo for leaking / bulging caps.
The first Top PDS Card is made by apple.
How do I take apart this Friking behemoth of a machine?
I cut my hands doing something in there!
I'll take it to NJ where I'll do a ton of testing and update you guys. I don't really have space in my apartment (shared with my family) To do a test bed boot. Is the Power Supply just a plain ol' ATX? In kind of looks like it, correct me if I am wrong.
In other news, my IIci works and I used it for a day yesterday! System 7.5.1 in color is awesome!
How do I take apart this Friking behemoth of a machine?
I cut my hands doing something in there!
I'll take it to NJ where I'll do a ton of testing and update you guys. I don't really have space in my apartment (shared with my family) To do a test bed boot. Is the Power Supply just a plain ol' ATX? In kind of looks like it, correct me if I am wrong.
In other news, my IIci works and I used it for a day yesterday! System 7.5.1 in color is awesome!
Its not ATX.
Exactly.
Who designed it?
I'd like to give them a piece of my mind }
} } Could a PRAM Battery be the culprit?
Could a bad PRAM be killing it?
No, but plugging it in while wet would.
/facepalm
Back away from the Mac, put down the screwdriver and raise your hands where we can see 'em. Nice and slow.
Do some research before you start monkeying with it some more. See sig.
And please, stop using the "Quote" button instead of the "Post Reply" button
/facepalm
Back away from the Mac, put down the screwdriver and raise your hands where we can see 'em. Nice and slow.
Do some research before you start monkeying with it some more. See sig.
And please, stop using the "Quote" button instead of the "Post Reply" button
It may have been damaged before.
Please refrain from your nastiness, it is not necessary.
I use the quote button because I believe quoting is necessary.
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Please refrain from your nastiness, it is not necessary.
I use the quote button because I believe quoting is necessary.
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take a breather and google up some doc's
meantime I had a 8500 that was a nasty thing to get started, but once it did it was fine
after you read up abit on how its pieced together wiggle everything thats in a socket, if dirty clean
on my 8500 the cuda button was beside the cpu slot but under the heat sink, press and hold
other than repeating the process over and over again would anyone guess my 8500 still worked
last time I got it started, it took a evening of me fiddling with it before I got the broken glass sound
then another evening before it chimed
Months later gave it to a fellow member still working fine, but dont let it sit in the closet for a few months (even with a good battery)
(ps its not really necessary when its the 1 post above you)
meantime I had a 8500 that was a nasty thing to get started, but once it did it was fine
after you read up abit on how its pieced together wiggle everything thats in a socket, if dirty clean
on my 8500 the cuda button was beside the cpu slot but under the heat sink, press and hold
other than repeating the process over and over again would anyone guess my 8500 still worked
last time I got it started, it took a evening of me fiddling with it before I got the broken glass sound
then another evening before it chimed
Months later gave it to a fellow member still working fine, but dont let it sit in the closet for a few months (even with a good battery)
(ps its not really necessary when its the 1 post above you)
Not even two days. Looking inside the case means nothing.
Hey, I'm just trying to help, but if you want to ignore the advice I and others are offering you, then *shrug*. It's your loss. It's dead now, that much is certain. I wish you luck.
Re: quoting. Quoting the entire post directly above yours to add a one line reply is not only unnecessary, it's considered poor form. Context is clear from the fact that your reply comes directly after the one you're replying to. If you are replying to something in particular, edit.
I was just trying to offer some advice for him as I felt that the drying time was not long enough.
That and I was just trying to flesh out what the poster above me was saying, is all.
That and I was just trying to flesh out what the poster above me was saying, is all.
Once again mars478, you've failed to have patience. All you had to do was let that machine sit for 1-2 weeks to completely dry out and adjust to room temperature. In trying to test the machine prematurely, you've probably done a lot more damage to it. Also, you really should research more about the machines you acquire. That case is notorious for its bad internal design, and this has been documented in depth on this very forum. Getting angry and impatient with fellow members doesn't help either - Bunsen and the others are trying to help you.
Ah...
:'(
:'(