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How much can I get for my G5?
it's a Dual core, 2.0GHZ, 16GB ram, 1.4TB HDD's, Nvidia 6600LE Vid card, Pioneer DVD DL?
Where can I find a GOOD pcie Video card (in case I do not sell my G5) better than the Nvidia 6600LE card?
Thanks In Advance
Jim
Where can I find a GOOD pcie Video card (in case I do not sell my G5) better than the Nvidia 6600LE card?
Thanks In Advance
Jim
Well over $1500 $1000 for a setup like that. Snow Leopard depreciated the value somewhat (irrational people who think PPC is worthless now because it can't run Snow Leopard).
1500.00? WOW!!! I didn't think it would be that much... I posted it up on craigslist for 800.00 then lowered it to 600.00 and I got no-shows.
Then I was looking at it and I'm like How can I get rid of my G5...........
I also have a iLugger for it... I like to keep my stuff like new and that was my thinking when I bought the iLugger, I've seen more than enough G5 busted up... :-(
I have no problem with keeping the G5, people say a mac mini is faster... of course it is, it is 3 generations of chips ahead of the G5... But the G5 is faster than the newest MM IN SOME THINGS...
I am so anal with the G5 that when I clean it, I clean it!!! Fans get taken out and cleaned the PS get's 2 cans of air in the PS to make sure there is not dust in the or on the fans. AND some of the aluminum gets waxed so it does't bubble like on some G5's i've seen...
Then I was looking at it and I'm like How can I get rid of my G5...........
I also have a iLugger for it... I like to keep my stuff like new and that was my thinking when I bought the iLugger, I've seen more than enough G5 busted up... :-(
I have no problem with keeping the G5, people say a mac mini is faster... of course it is, it is 3 generations of chips ahead of the G5... But the G5 is faster than the newest MM IN SOME THINGS...
I am so anal with the G5 that when I clean it, I clean it!!! Fans get taken out and cleaned the PS get's 2 cans of air in the PS to make sure there is not dust in the or on the fans. AND some of the aluminum gets waxed so it does't bubble like on some G5's i've seen...
I checked eBay. $1500 would be on the high end of what you could sell it for. $1000 would be the minimum.
Sell it on eBay with those specs and I think you could clear $1200. Craigslist is not good for selling top of the line Macs like this, they are not appreciated.
Sell it on eBay with those specs and I think you could clear $1200. Craigslist is not good for selling top of the line Macs like this, they are not appreciated.
There was one auction where a G5 went for 1200.00... Not bad...
But I'll keep it...
No reason for me to get rid of a good machine...
I was just wondering and just wanted an opinion also...
I'm just looking now for a good video card for it, the Nvidia 6600le is not cutting it anymore...
But I'll keep it...
No reason for me to get rid of a good machine...
I was just wondering and just wanted an opinion also...
I'm just looking now for a good video card for it, the Nvidia 6600le is not cutting it anymore...
The best native video card you can get for it is the 7800GT 256MB. I believe this was only ever sold as a BTO option on a new dual core G5 so they're quite hard to find.
You can flash certain models of PC 7800 or 7900 with a Mac ROM, and that's usually the cheapest option.
I have also heard that X1800s will work in a G5 but I'm not 100% sure on that one.
You can flash certain models of PC 7800 or 7900 with a Mac ROM, and that's usually the cheapest option.
I have also heard that X1800s will work in a G5 but I'm not 100% sure on that one.
I've actually opened my G4 tower power supplies and vacuum then out. It works nicely. I take baby wipes to the cases of all my computers since I think "if it's good for baby which is delicate, then it's good for a computer."
iLugger eh? I was looking into getting one for my iMac G5 back when I had it because I didn't have a laptop at the time so I took it places(not coffee shops mind you). But, now that I have a laptop and I gave my replacement iMac intel to my folks. I don't need one, still it's a neat idea.
$1000? That's crazy! I can't believe they still are worth that much even with the intel switch.
$1000+ for a dual 2.0GHz model?? You guys must be joking right? I've seen QUAD core models selling under $1000 since BEFORE 10.6 came out. Just this past summer I watched a quad 2.5GHz system with 4Gb of RAM sell for $750. A 2.0GHz model (dual core or DP) is worth maybe $450-$500 on a good day. Yes there's a TON of RAM in there, but its the still just 2.0GHz and out of Applecare. Anyone with $1000+ to spend on a Mac can get a new iMac that will smoke the G5, and it includes a screen. Sorry if I come off as rude, but the G5 got screwed as far as resale value is concerned.
The memory alone costs about $250 new on Dealram.
He also said "1.4 TB HDD's" which I assume means two of them (and probably 1.5 TB as I've never seen 1.4 TB). Those are over $100 each new on Pricewatch.
The Pioneer DVD DL is worth about $50 if you consider the brand name.
So that's around $450 - $500 in upgrades.
He also said "1.4 TB HDD's" which I assume means two of them (and probably 1.5 TB as I've never seen 1.4 TB). Those are over $100 each new on Pricewatch.
The Pioneer DVD DL is worth about $50 if you consider the brand name.
So that's around $450 - $500 in upgrades.
None the less, the G5 did get screwed with 10.6 BUT it will not stop working B/C of that...
How many people actually buy a new OS when it first comes out, I myself do not go out of my way to upgrade to a new OS.
If I bought a new computer and received the newest OS that is when I only upgraded...
But in this economy, I'm laid off so I won't be buying anything...
I am teaching myself web design and desktop publishing and that is why I was debating on getting rid of the G5 and get a Mac Mini for that...
But with a MM I could not have 16GB ram in it. I did buy (Off eBay) an ATI X1900 G5 Mac® Edition for $175.00 to replace my nvidia 6600LE 128 mb...
How many people actually buy a new OS when it first comes out, I myself do not go out of my way to upgrade to a new OS.
If I bought a new computer and received the newest OS that is when I only upgraded...
But in this economy, I'm laid off so I won't be buying anything...
I am teaching myself web design and desktop publishing and that is why I was debating on getting rid of the G5 and get a Mac Mini for that...
But with a MM I could not have 16GB ram in it. I did buy (Off eBay) an ATI X1900 G5 Mac® Edition for $175.00 to replace my nvidia 6600LE 128 mb...
Thats all very true, but the system as a whole isn't worth that much. Sometimes it makes more sense to part out a system than to sell it as one unit. If it were a quad 2.5GHz or even a highly desired DC 2.3GHz model (because its the fastest to run without the liquid cooling) the price is higher. If he can find someone to pay that much, then thats great. But with brand new Macs and even faster G5's for around the same price or less, its a hard item to sell for what it may be truly worth.
A system, or any item, is worth however much someone wants to pay for it. If someone pays $1500, then it is worth $1500. If someone would only pay $500, then it is worth $500. It is up to the buyer and seller to negotiate a price on which the two parties can agree.
Sure, yeah. If $500 in upgrades only added $200 to the selling price, I would strip it down to base, sell the upgrades separately then sell the G5, get some more money that way.
What if one person wants to pay $500 and another person offers $1500? Is the machine worth $500 or $1500?
Just because someone has some kind of temporary mental problem and pays $5000 for a G5 doesn't mean that, for general purposes, the G5 is worth $5000. I think we could all agree that a base spec working condition dual G5 at this point in time, is for general purposes, worth more than $1 and less than $5000.
Obviously, it's worth two different prices to two different people. Now it's up to the seller to decide if he wants $500 or $1500.
Yes, which is why both the buyers and sellers must be educated. This is part of basic economics.
You'd be lucky to get $700. Honestly, you're insane to think you'll get more, or the buyer is a sucker. They're almost vintage. You never get your investment back with upgrades, and a lower end G5 dual 2.0 ghz is hardly worth $350. Just keep it, its not really worth selling and I am sure it's plenty fast for what you use it for.
well it isn't vintage yet... it is still a very capable machine and the difference from 2.0GHZ to 2.3 is not much, only 300MHZ anyways... and with 16 gb ram this thing doesn't stutter...
Vintage is a color classic, performa 6500, or even a powermac g3...
Vintage is a color classic, performa 6500, or even a powermac g3...
$350? WTF?
It's not that low yet dude.
to a realist it is, to mac fanatic its not, funny things about mac's I guess
whats going to be interesting is when these mactels start hitting vintage, that should even out the playing field
whats going to be interesting is when these mactels start hitting vintage, that should even out the playing field
It's like a used car. Someone may replace the engine and all major support parts costing the person 5 grand in parts. But the car's only worth maybe 3 grand. This happens all the time.
This is the cheapest G5 I could find that didn't say Parts or Repair on it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/power-pc-g5_W0QQitemZ250494997439QQcmdZViewItemQQptZApple_Desktops?hash=item3a52aa53bf&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_500wt_1182
$247.50 - bidding type auction. someone got lucky
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-Dual-G5-1-8Ghz-512MB-MEM-160GB-HDD-FAST_W0QQitemZ290344109697QQcmdZViewItemQQptZApple_Desktops?hash=item4399db8681&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_5807wt_1167
$535 - Buy It Now.
Low End Mac Deals
1.8 GHz dual (PCI), $469, DV Warehouse
1.8 GHz dual (PCI-X), $500, Mac of All Trades
All of those are bone stock or almost stock.
I would put the value closer to $500, it's just that you can get a good deal on eBay, so depending on how you look at it, the value is less.
The G5 is still holding excellent value. How many 5 year old PCs do you know of that are still worth 25% of their original sale price? Most PCs that old are crushed. The G5 still has excellent functionality at this point and I think the only thing that will kill it off will be the mass proliferation of Intel-only apps.
Sometimes I wonder if Apple really does do things to try to make it hard to use old Macs. You spend $2000 on a Mac and it lasts for 7 years (assuming I can get another 2 years out of a G5 before hitting major Intel roadblocks) and Apple doesn't really like that. When this G5 is finally retired, I'll get an 8-core Mac Pro and I expect to get another 7 years unless they do something artificial to limit that.
http://cgi.ebay.com/power-pc-g5_W0QQitemZ250494997439QQcmdZViewItemQQptZApple_Desktops?hash=item3a52aa53bf&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_500wt_1182
$247.50 - bidding type auction. someone got lucky
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-Dual-G5-1-8Ghz-512MB-MEM-160GB-HDD-FAST_W0QQitemZ290344109697QQcmdZViewItemQQptZApple_Desktops?hash=item4399db8681&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_5807wt_1167
$535 - Buy It Now.
Low End Mac Deals
1.8 GHz dual (PCI), $469, DV Warehouse
1.8 GHz dual (PCI-X), $500, Mac of All Trades
All of those are bone stock or almost stock.
I would put the value closer to $500, it's just that you can get a good deal on eBay, so depending on how you look at it, the value is less.
The G5 is still holding excellent value. How many 5 year old PCs do you know of that are still worth 25% of their original sale price? Most PCs that old are crushed. The G5 still has excellent functionality at this point and I think the only thing that will kill it off will be the mass proliferation of Intel-only apps.
Sometimes I wonder if Apple really does do things to try to make it hard to use old Macs. You spend $2000 on a Mac and it lasts for 7 years (assuming I can get another 2 years out of a G5 before hitting major Intel roadblocks) and Apple doesn't really like that. When this G5 is finally retired, I'll get an 8-core Mac Pro and I expect to get another 7 years unless they do something artificial to limit that.
In about 10-15 years time they'll probably be making their own processors and video cards. Take that Hackintosh!
Well on ebay I sold my G5 for 750.00+35.00 shipping.
That's about in line with average prices, considering I bought a dual 2.7 G5 for $550 on eBay sans video card and HDD.
Whoever was saying 1500 was way out. You can get an early Mac Pro for that.
Whoever was saying 1500 was way out. You can get an early Mac Pro for that.
My quad G5/2.5 (8GB RAM, etc) has a 7800GT. Money well spent. I intend to get a lot of wear out of this machine; it's served me well for 3 1/2 years already.
As long as we have some browsers still being developed, then PPC will be able to hold on for a good long time. Safari 4 is still compatible with old iMac G3s so it would be surprising to see them just hack off all PPCs in one fell swoop.
It looks like Flash Player 10.1 will support PPC eventually so that's good.
Well, the end is near. Adobe AIR 2.0 won't support PPC anymore, for example, so I confidently expect Flash 11 to be x86 only. Myself, I'm gearing up to running off my own Caminos or Firefoxen in the same way I run off Classillas in the future, both because I use Tiger, and because this G5 -- one of the last, mind you, I bought it in 8/06 -- is now 3 1/2 years old, and frankly it's a cold Intel world out there. :-/
I don't think it would be too hard to keep a PPC build of Camino and/or Firefox going, assuming they don't start loading it up with x86 assembly or something. As long as they don't use any Snow Leopard specific features. Even if they went Leopard only (since who uses Tiger on Intel Macs still?) - then that still keeps it running on G4s and G5s.
I'm worried they're going to take a page from Google (the company I love to hate these days) and start using architecture-specific JavaScript JITs like V8, which currently only runs on x86 and ARM because -- supplies! -- no one has done the work to convert to POWER opcodes. Unfortunately, it's the next logical step.
Mozilla has had some internal discussions about causing the runtime to require some of 10.5's built-in APIs such as Core Data. That will hurt, because I need to use some Classic apps I have no substitute for (and I like OS 9), so I'm on 10.4 on my PowerPCs forever. What may have to happen is, like Classilla, I start backporting later code from "Gecko 2.0" or whatever to the Gecko 1.9.x that still runs on 10.4. Fortunately Firefox 3.6/Gecko 1.9.2 still does (I have to investigate Gecko 1.9.3).
You can always dualboot between tiger and leopard.
I have 10.5 on my G5. I don't see why you should limit yourself to 10.4. Just get a nice souped up G4 to run your Classic apps, and then you can run them on the real OS 9 and not in the environment.
My OS 9 rig has a 1.8 GHz Single G4 processor (got lucky at the recycler one day) and 1 GB RAM. Since OS 9 can't use dual processors anyway the speed is actually faster than Classic Environment on my G5.
My OS 9 rig has a 1.8 GHz Single G4 processor (got lucky at the recycler one day) and 1 GB RAM. Since OS 9 can't use dual processors anyway the speed is actually faster than Classic Environment on my G5.
Does Safari 4 have a JavaScript JIT? I know it has some kind of faster JavaScript deal in it. That means they had to support PowerPC specifically, so hopefully we'll get to hold on to it for a little while. (or were they lazy bastards and just left in the old code for PPC???)
What will it achieve though? They can store data some way right now so why change only the Mac version arbitrarily to "Core Data" when everyone else is using "some proprietary method" which works fine? I also thought Core Data was in Tiger.