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Ethernet, the search

68kMLA Software 28 posts May 5, 2015 to Jul 17, 2015

#1 Tue, 5 May 2015 - 23:18 68kMLA

So I picked up an Macintosh SE FDHD to get software moved between my pc and both my Macintosh SE's. After replaceing some ram that died after 5 minutes of running its doing all nice, no leaking caps and running stable!

So I currently have: 1 Macintosh SE, 1 Macintosh SE FDHD and 1 400/800K External floppy drive. Due this I'm able to move files from the Macintosh SE to my computer... So I can get MacTCP and all the other software to work. Only... What can I get to connect it to ethernet? I've tried searching on ebay and I didn't find any that are suited for the Macintosh SE, although I'm not sure what to look for. It doesn't matter if its external or an extension card.

Any tips on what to search for? I just want to get IRC working on it

#2 Wed, 6 May 2015 - 01:13 68kMLA

There are PDS Ethernet cards for the Mac SE, though of course they'll be getting harder to find as time goes by. That feature where ebay emails you might be useful.

There were also SCSI Ethernet adapters where were compatible with the Mac SE.

Good luck!

#3 Wed, 6 May 2015 - 01:56 68kMLA

I found half of one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mac-SE-MacCon-SEE-Asante-Tech-P-N-09-00300-61-Rev-A-Apple-/400643429539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d483594a3

This is the correct board, it's a MACCON SE, but you'll need to find the transceiver portion...

#4 Wed, 6 May 2015 - 01:58 68kMLA

Here's one new in the box but it's pretty expensive:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-NEW-DAYNA-DAYNAPORT-E-SE-T-MACINTOSH-SE-10BASE-T-ETHERNET-NETWORK-PRODUCTS-/111540094192?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f84ec4f0

#5 Wed, 6 May 2015 - 01:59 68kMLA

A SCSI to Ethernet from Asante will work also it's external.

#6 Wed, 6 May 2015 - 10:32 68kMLA

TylerEss said:
There are PDS Ethernet cards for the Mac SE, though of course they'll be getting harder to find as time goes by. That feature where ebay emails you might be useful.

There were also SCSI Ethernet adapters where were compatible with the Mac SE.

Good luck!

Macdrone said:
A SCSI to Ethernet from Asante will work also it's external.

Yeah, I tried searching for them... But none are avaliable at ebay at the current moment.

360alaska said:
Here's one new in the box but it's pretty expensive:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-NEW-DAYNA-DAYNAPORT-E-SE-T-MACINTOSH-SE-10BASE-T-ETHERNET-NETWORK-PRODUCTS-/111540094192?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f84ec4f0

It is indeed... I may try to make an offer though.. Thanks!

#7 Wed, 6 May 2015 - 22:55 68kMLA

Generally you have to look around for 6 months or so to find one cheap. The external SCSI Ethernet adapters are probably a better deal if you have more then one compact that needs Ethernet (just swap it around as needed). If you just want to move file then maybe using an external ZIP/JAZZ might be more economical.

#8 Thu, 7 May 2015 - 00:00 68kMLA

The last SCSI to Ethernet adapter I saw on eBay went for for about ~200

#9 Thu, 7 May 2015 - 00:30 68kMLA

Is this topic like: Spaceballs, the Movie? lol. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Looks like an en/sc just closed on ebay this morning. Did you look for "en/sc"? Are you sure you did your search right? $26.00 is a sure cry from $200. See this link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asante-En-Sc-10T-/131496952918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9dd44456

Also ask for one here as WTB, in the trading post subtopic.

These are the best, because you can use them on *any* vitage mac including and before the beige G3, anything with an external SCSI port - so almost all of them.

#10 Thu, 7 May 2015 - 00:33 68kMLA

Damn, I missed that one.. I didn't search for just en/sc yet, whoops. Followed that search on eBay now.

I'll make a WTB topic here tomorrow too.

#11 Thu, 7 May 2015 - 01:05 68kMLA

lopaka1998 said:
Is this topic like: Spaceballs, the Movie? lol. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Looks like an en/sc just closed on ebay this morning. Did you look for "en/sc"? Are you sure you did your search right? $26.00 is a sure cry from $200. See this link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asante-En-Sc-10T-/131496952918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9dd44456

Also ask for one here as WTB, in the trading post subtopic.

These are the best, because you can use them on *any* vitage mac including and before the beige G3, anything with an external SCSI port - so almost all of them.

That's pretty good! I bet if the seller changed the wording a little he would have made substantially more money

#12 Fri, 8 May 2015 - 08:56 68kMLA

360alaska said:
Here's one new in the box but it's pretty expensive:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-NEW-DAYNA-DAYNAPORT-E-SE-T-MACINTOSH-SE-10BASE-T-ETHERNET-NETWORK-PRODUCTS-/111540094192?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f84ec4f0

I got it for $25!

#13 Fri, 8 May 2015 - 16:06 68kMLA

WOW! he went from 150 to 25?

#14 Fri, 8 May 2015 - 16:33 68kMLA

Yeah he did, isn't it great?

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#15 Sun, 10 May 2015 - 01:42 68kMLA

41 to ship though?

#16 Sun, 10 May 2015 - 09:27 68kMLA

Its ebay's expensive shipping program, shipping to the Netherlands ain't cheap

#17 Tue, 19 May 2015 - 21:03 68kMLA

Okay so it came in and I installed it, only its not completly working... I've installed MacTCP and the orginal drivers that came with it, but there is no sign of life comming from the ethernet cable (my switch detects nothing). The card is not broken, because the included hardware dignostic reports "OK, 8k ram" only the drivers are being problemmatic.

This shows up on boot, what does it mean?

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#18 Tue, 19 May 2015 - 21:14 68kMLA

the thing with these is, Ethernet to an 8 mhz machine is just not that great of an experience. I mean heck Ethernet to an 030 machine is questionable/ worth it. I can understand the desire though. but once you get it to work, you will be like oh..cool. and probably shelf it... <--- speaking from experience LOLOLOLOL. The LC475, with a 33mhz re-clock, 128megs of ram, 10krpm HD 73gig, and a easy to find, cheap LC NIC card installed... now that starts to get slightly enjoyable.

#19 Tue, 19 May 2015 - 21:18 68kMLA

I wanted to use it for IRC, which the 8mhz is enough for

#20 Tue, 19 May 2015 - 21:20 68kMLA

True, IRC on the SE/30 is mostly useable

#21 Tue, 19 May 2015 - 21:20 68kMLA

http://www.vintagemacworld.com/mactcpip.html

did you check this out?

#22 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 - 13:59 68kMLA

Hi,

Did you get this working?

I have a Dayna pocket SCSI/Ethernet box Im trying to use to connect a Classic to an old iMac G3 - the candy coloured ones.

#23 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 - 14:03 68kMLA

I've put the project on hold for a while until I have some more time for it. So sorry, Can't help you further.

The iMac G3 should have an intergrated ethernet port though, any reason not to use it?

#24 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 - 00:45 68kMLA

After installing the software for my ethernet card (Farallon), I could not get my internet to work until I installed Open Transport. Then it was a cake walk.

I was using OS7, and I installed OT v 1.1.2 I don't know if this would be helpfull or not.

jack

#25 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 - 00:46 68kMLA

Would you have any copy of the OpenTransport disk by any chance?

#26 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 - 01:02 68kMLA

System7today has it I think.

#27 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 - 01:12 68kMLA

smiba said:
Would you have any copy of the OpenTransport disk by any chance?

I do have a copy, but I only have my CC, and I can not figure out how to send it to you.

Right now I am running 7.6.1. If you can tell me how to format a floppy, I can move open transport to it and then mail it to you.

jack

#28 Fri, 17 Jul 2015 - 09:33 68kMLA

smiba said:
I've put the project on hold for a while until I have some more time for it. So sorry, Can't help you further.

The iMac G3 should have an intergrated ethernet port though, any reason not to use it?

The machines are joined at a switch. The Classic has the SCSI / Ethernet device and the G3 connects through its own Ethernet port.