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Inexpensive USB2 & SATA card recommendations . . .
. . . for a 466 DA runnin' 9.x and a Quicksilver 02 runnin 9.2.2?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
TIA
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
TIA
There's no USB2.0 support under OS 9. I'm not sure of the situation with SATA cards, but a little searching would probably turn up something. Try xlr8yourmac and the apple support forums
Sata card recommendations?
You're likely to have more luck with Firewire, IMHO - and FW-SATA adapters - or plain-jane PATA.
Sata card recommendations?
You could also try trawling the sonnettech support pages, and see if they ever made a suitable card.
You're likely to have more luck with Firewire, IMHO - and FW-SATA adapters - or plain-jane PATA.
If you're running at least Tiger, my experience is that almost any cheap-o USB 2.0 card for PCs will work just fine in a Mac.
Virtually any FireWire 400 card will work fine.
Virtually any FireWire 400 card will work fine.
Trash don't do OS X
You got dat right! :approve:
I'll look into all the different SATA <-> whatever adapters and install one. It took over two hours to back up a 16 GB KeyChain drive to the QS'02 . . .
. . . and something like three freakin' hours using an identical powered USB2 bridge attached to the 466 DA. :
BLEH! [xx(] ]'>
From personal experience, a Sonnet Tempo SATA card will boot just great to OS 9 or any version of OS X.
No OS X? How can you stand it?!
At LEAST upgrade to Panther!
At LEAST upgrade to Panther!
Easily! I've got, literally, over fifteen thousand dollars worth of vertical market CAD/CAM software alone from my sign business. It works fine, I know how to use it and it requires a 9.2.2 world (or less!) and I'm NOT about to upgrade Illustrator, Freehand, the rest of my graphics suite and all the rest of my productivity software when running what I've got under 9.x is plenty good enough! [
] ]'>I'm doin' the ubuntu thing to stretch the noggin' out a little bit and all of that software is FREE!
I can't wait to get the GIMPbox up and running! [
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My only experience with a USB2 card upgrade was in a PM G4. The only one that could be picked up off-the-shelf was a generic PC one with a Via chip. Turned out to be useless. It was for a USB2 external drive that was to be used for backups. Trouble was, the drive would only mount maybe one out of every 10 times. It worked fine with the built-in USB ports. Even the Via drivers didn't help. But this was with Tiger too.
I have had success with NEC-based USB2 cards. But as others have mentioned they only work at USB2 speeds in MacOS X 10.2.8+.
The only exception I have had to a working NEC-based card was a Belkin 5-port card. Worked well in Windows but it would cause lockups in MacOS X.
The only exception I have had to a working NEC-based card was a Belkin 5-port card. Worked well in Windows but it would cause lockups in MacOS X.
That's a USB flash drive? I don't think there are any SATA->USB converters, only USB->SATA. More likely to find a FW->USB converter. I think the MiniStack drive has this feature.
You *could* I guess boot into OS X for a file transfer at USB2.0 speeds, then reboot into OS 9 for the rest of your work. Just avert your eyes
Or indeed Linux. Heck, run MacOnLinux with Ubuntu PPC for the best of both worlds.
protocol7: sounds like you got a flaky card.
I assumed at the time that any card would do, but when I started hitting all these problems I did some reading around and found a lot of talk about Via chipsets being troublesome. NEC chips seem to be far more reliable, but finding one locally wasn't gonna happen.
More info please.
I don't have any, sorry bizzle. Best to ask MacJunky
For a zero-cost solution, stick the USB drive into HP_Mini and FTP the files to your Mac over the LAN
Don't go buying that on my say-so. Google so far has turned up exactly nothing that converts a USB device to a Firewire port.
For a zero-cost solution, stick the USB drive into HP_Mini and FTP the files to your Mac over the LAN
By chance I dropped a NEC based generic USB2 card in a graphite G4 running OS 9. Worked fine without drivers, it loaded a USB2 flash stick but I didn't test the speed, although it didn't work in a dual 1.8ghz G5 PCI (not the PCI-X model). This is the model $13 CAD http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=003053&cid=IOC.313.574
Have you tried connecting your QS to you DA with a Firewire and Target Disk Mode?
Have you tried connecting your QS to you DA with a Firewire and Target Disk Mode?
Thanks for the lead! I'll get two! [
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Just looked at the box, it's Bytecc. Apple System Profiler recognized the card but I can't tell if you if was running at USB2 speeds. But it didn't crash the mac so that's a plus!
VIA cards are a problem because they use UHCI and not OHCI, or something like that. However I think starting with Tiger, UHCI is supported.
VIA is the only on who makes crap UHCI cards, so just avoid that chip and you'll be OK.
If a card is OHCI/EHCI (the USB 2.0 portion is EHCI) it will work in OS 9 but it won't work at the USB 2 speeds. Everything will work as OHCI and therefore 1.1 speeds.
VIA is the only on who makes crap UHCI cards, so just avoid that chip and you'll be OK.
If a card is OHCI/EHCI (the USB 2.0 portion is EHCI) it will work in OS 9 but it won't work at the USB 2 speeds. Everything will work as OHCI and therefore 1.1 speeds.
That makes sense. And now that I think back, that G4 was running Panther and not Tiger.
I think I'll just go back to "sneaker netting" w/HDDs! :
I was trying to avoid spending $80, but Sonnettech has always done well by me!
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo_serial_ata.html
I've got a pair of $20 Multiple Card Reader/USB2 Bridge/external SATA/AV hookup units in the 5.25" drive format with a silver bezel. I've still got the blank faceplate, maybe it's time to ditch the DAs ZIP and hack a little bit of sheet metal! [}] ]'>
I was trying to avoid spending $80, but Sonnettech has always done well by me!
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo_serial_ata.html
I've got a pair of $20 Multiple Card Reader/USB2 Bridge/external SATA/AV hookup units in the 5.25" drive format with a silver bezel. I've still got the blank faceplate, maybe it's time to ditch the DAs ZIP and hack a little bit of sheet metal! [}
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Doesn't matter what card you stick in your machines, you will still only get USB 1.1 speeds under OS 9. In case that was unclear.
Clear as a bell, that's why I'm going back to sneaker-netting w/HDDs . . .
. . . of course THIS time around they'll (eventually) be ESATA HDDs. }