No, not really sure that the card is even good: i was assured that the card is new and never used: although i have been badly stung in a similar purchase of some midi gear.
My 8500 already has a FireWire card and a USB card and i don't want to anger the gods by removing those cards and trying this one.
Hopefully Joe aka Phreakout emails me the USB extensions.
I'll just wait and if all fails walk it over to my local apple authorized repair guy and ask him to save the day AGAIN for this wanabe mac tech guy.
However it sure has me baffled why there is no response from the card or why apple's profiler or norton's system's works 9 fails to see the card although Conflict catcher 9 sees the drivers but no device.
Also perhaps i did not "install" the card correctly.
Thanks LCGuy for keeping tabs on my problem.