The 1.33ghz ibook is a bit more challenging!! I figured out that the video problem is due to a bad cable. The no start problem was actually a dead hardrive. I swapped in a good one and everything started up as it should. But it also has a faulty dvd-rom drive. So it looks like the third G4 ibook will turn into a donor for its LCD cable and dvd-rom drive. Those parts will not swap from the G3 ibooks. Lots of great fixes for the ibooks on the net. I thought the one brought up on an ealier post was great!! Flames on the motherboard