I actually see the appletv doing well this time around. People might think this market is saturated, but I think it hasn't been tapped correctly. Sure, it doesn't appeal to me because I already have a device hooked into my tv playing media from my few tb server;however, I'm not who this is for. The xbox 360/ps3 media are nice add-ons for gamers and most of the other media streaming devices, as nice as they may be, just are not marketed well enough. I really think with the nice ui that the apple tv has + marketing ability of apple + itunes store this thing stands a pretty good chance of surprising me and being in one of my friends parents living room.