I dunno, when I had my 8500 it maybe was a bit better than my winTV tuner (which was about the same age, I did have my playstation 2 hooked up to it for ever so I could play those games on my LCD cause I refused to believe I needed glasses and TV was really just that bad) and I dont know about pro gear but the new one I have in my pc is a pile of junk, If i ever get off my butt I am going to switch it out for the nearly 15 year old winTV card