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Post #17 by JDW
Source Forum68kMLA
CategoryHardware
Post DateMon, 24 Oct 2011 - 22:15
Original URLhttps://68kmla.org/bb/threads/powerbook-g3-wallstreet-pdq-ram-compatibility.24086/
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Well, I wrote to Sonnet last night in hopes if getting the definitive word on their 500MHz Crescendo G3 CPU upgrade for the Wallstreet PowerBooks. Here is what I wrote to them:

Dear Sonnet Technical Support,
Please forgive me for burdening you with this question, since it does pertain to one of your long obsolete products. But after having spent many, many hours online in vain trying to find the answer to my question, and after having numerous discussions in several online forums, I have no choice but to turn to you for advice.

I have a Macintosh PowerBook G3 PDQ 266MHz. I wish to get your 500MHz G3 Crescendo/WS CPU card to work with it. (It is definitely the G3, not the G4.) Please know that I have reviewed your online Manual and FAQ here:

http://www.sonnettech.com/support/kb/kb.php?cat=364&expand=_a3_a2_b75_b234_a1_b227&action=b155#b155

http://www.sonnettech.com/support/downloads/manuals/crescendo_ws_qsg.pdf

My question is, what must I do to the CPU card to restore the ROM into its pre-flashed state? The problem is that the CPU upgrade was previously flashed on another PowerBook G3, and for whatever reason there is no video at boot time, as described in these Sonnet customers:

https://www.macgurus.com/forums/showpost.php?p=112041&postcount=6

http://www.daniweb.com/hardware-and-software/apple/apple-hardware-and-devices/threads/86015

Since the product is obsolete, it would not appear possible to send the card back to you in order to restore the ROM. Therefore, is there any means of my restoring the ROM myself (to its pre-flashed condition)?

The serial number on the sticker on my 500MHz G3 CPU card is: A2388

I no longer have the stock 2GB hard drive that originally came with the PowerBook G3 Wallsteet, if that matters. I only mention it because one of your customers online said that they could only use your Upgrade Software 1.2.1 on a Wallstreet that had the stock hard drive. I can only hope they were mistaken on that point.

I look forward to your reply.

Thank you for your time and kind consideration.

Neil from Sonnet Customer Service kindly responded a few hours later, as follows

Here's the bad news for you. There is nothing you can do to restore the CPU upgrade to it's pre-flashed state. That required a special piece of hardware and we don't have it anymore. I think it was scrapped years ago. So there is no way to restore the CPU to a virgin state so you can re-flash it with the proper ROM.

Of course, I've not yet purchased the Sonnet CPU upgrade yet, but I wrote to Sonnet going under the assumption that the CPU card had already been flashed on a PowerBook G3 Wallstreet. And since it is not known if the PowerBook was in fact a PDQ edition, there is no way to know if it wouldn't have the same "dead video" as reported by a couple other users in those other threads. And since Sonnet says restoring the ROM to its pre-flashed state is now impossible, the only way to safely know if the CPU upgrade would work is if you know 100% that the upgrade had been flashed in the same exact "revision" model as the PowerBook you own.

 

In retrospect it seems quite foolish to me that Sonnet setup the card this way, as it put the support burden on them for reflashing. And now after all these years, it has become impossible to reflash the cards at all.

 

The other unclear point is about the requirement for the "stock 2GB hard drive" that some have reported. Let's say you acquire a Sonnet CPU upgrade that was flashed on another PDQ and you wish to use it on your PowerBook G3 PDQ. You would need to use Sonnet's Installer software, so it would install the appropriate extensions on your machine. But would that installer not work if you lack the stock 2GB hard drive (which many PowerBook G3 users do lack these days)? Or would it simply refuse to reflash the CPU upgrade, which cannot be done anyway once its flashed?

 

All said, I must admit I am rather disappointed.

mp.ls