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Post #7 by JDW
Source Forum68kMLA
CategoryTroubleshooting
Post DateSat, 12 Nov 2011 - 23:09
Original URLhttps://68kmla.org/bb/threads/128k-mac-analog-board-help-i-need-to-identify-the-parts.24118/
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Since you didn't mention any Digi-Key P/N for CR20, I found MBR1045GOS-ND which matches the specs you specified. Is this the right one?
The Digikey website is in error about the temperature spec. Take note of the Manufacturer Part Number on both of those DigiKey web pages. They are exactly the same, with the exception of the very last character: one is A and the other B. When searching the Panasonic website today, I see they only have the "A" part listed, which I take to mean they no longer manufacture the "B" part:

http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf/ABD0000/ABD0000CE47.pdf

However, when I downloaded and inspected the datasheets of both the ECW-F2395JB & ECW-F2395JA, the technical specifications are exactly the same except for the low end of the temperature specification (one goes down to -20°C while the other is rated at down to -40°C). The only other difference being in the text description of "Features" and perhaps the manufacturing process Panasonic uses to build the cap. All said, either cap will work, and both are spec'd at in the upper end at +105°C.

For clarification I have updated my Google Docs spreadsheet. Thank you for this new information.

Since you didn't mention any Digi-Key P/N for CR20, I found MBR1045GOS-ND which matches the specs you specified. Is this the right one?
Yes that part is correct, but the Digikey link you provided is dead. Here's the link:

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?WT.z_header=search_go&lang=en&site=us&keywords=MBR1045GOS-ND&x=0&y=0

I've added that Digikey part number to my Google Docs spreadsheet. I did not put it there originally because when I created this almost 5 years ago, that particular component did not exist on the Digikey website. Thank you.

For C33 and C37 I found two. Should I get WYO472MCMCF0KR(element14) or DE2E3KH472MA3B(digikey).
Yes, the Murata part on DigiKey is correct (and so is the Vishay, but it's not on Digikey), so I've updated my spreadsheet accordingly. Thank you.

For CR15 and CR19, you listed 1N4735ADO41MSCT-ND but it's not available on Digi-Key. Can I get 1N4735AFSCT-ND instead?
It seems you got your URLs switched around! And although you technically can use the part you linked for me, you cannot buy it in single quantities. Therefore, I recommend this Digikey part instead:

http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/1N4735A-TP/1N4735A-TPCT-ND/950640

I've updated my spreadsheet accordingly.

Also no stock for P5928-ND(EEU-EB2E101). How about EEUEE2E101?
It's on the Digikey site here:

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?WT.z_header=search_go&lang=en&site=us&keywords=P5928-ND&x=0&y=0

And it says it will ship the first week of December. The price is lower than what I had on my spreadsheet before, so I've updated that on my spreadsheet.

Which ones are these on the board?805-0563 upper RFI shield

805-0577 lower RFI shield

22 AWG J4-J7 harness
Perhaps you are misunderstanding what these 3 things are (or I am simply misunderstanding your question):

1) The upper RFI shield is not needed. It actually blocks air flow which shortens the life of the analog board due to increased heat. Apple included it on the original Mac 128k analog board, but in later revisions it was no longer included. Hence, if you see this long aluminum part soldered into the upper part of your analog board (sitting right near the top of the Mac itself), then desolder and remove it.

2) The lower RFI shield is needed. And, only if required, it should be further insulated to prevent electrical shorts.

3) This harness originally came in a thin 22AWG wire version. It would be better to use the thicker 18AWG version, although unless you make one yourself (not likely) an existing 18AWG harness alone will be impossible to find, even on EBAY. But don't fret, the 22AWG version works fine. It's just that the 18AWG version would be "better in theory."

I hope this helps. And thank you for helping me improve the spreadsheet!

mp.ls