All of those machines you listed are certainly capable of moving some serious air, I wouldn't really be prepared to say cooling fans are the problem.

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my point is not there is a physical flaw in cooling capabilities, because that is not what i am saying...

i am saying, they purposely CONTROL the fan speeds, and over heat components, because they feel "fan noise"

is unappealing... i say kick that dam fan up, keep parts cool, makes them happy!~