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Wow this is super cool!   

yup

For Now... I want to keep the Board structure at the Root level unchanged... but I will simply add a PPC Zone under any Main Board that needs One

but a more permanent fix is just to replace all the ram, its big job, but a proper fix.  More chips are going to go bad as time passed if you don't change them all.

I'm kinda with you IIO... The G4s run Audio under OS9 like a rocket, for OS X, not so... it is best to throw massive amounts of RAM and CPU Power into the equation, so OS X is better running on a fast Intel

What's the main reason for the RAM to go bad?  Just use?  Electrical wear and tare?

I think I have a 512k board I can raid for RAM chips.

I have been with ATI RAGE 128 GL/PRO for years in OS9 with "acceptable" behaviour, but on OSX RAGE is really low end. Tiger and Leo demands not only Quartz capable cards (any card from RADEON and Geforce MX2) but CoreGraphics cards (From Radeon 9600 and Geforce 5200), having bad performance on Quartz only cards for keeping that eye-candy OSX look that Steve Jobs said "you have to lick".

You pay CPU cycles on OSX for the eye-candy. All DAW OS9 users have "half" the power on OSX than on native OS9 for this shit. I use shadow killer on OSX http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/6428/shadowkiller-x and that "helps" performance on RAGE 128 setup to be "acceptable"

beside the fact that this is a Mac OS 9 forum ... the worst you can do with a PPC G4 is to use it for audio in OSX.

Yes, but some features (as elastic audio on protools) are only on OSX versions. It could worth some users to edit with those OSX only tools and keep mixing on OS9.

just was bad ram from the get go,  some have said silicon contamination.    mostly its the Apple logo'd micron ram.

Jameco has ram chips. There is a link somewhere on the forum. I might have some left over from my two 512k's.

PM me Doug, and I'll see if I have enough on hand.

beside the fact that this is a Mac OS 9 forum ... the worst you can do with a PPC G4 is to use it for audio in OSX.

thanks for sharing your experience. but other people may have different goals / software & hardware compatibility concerns.
or they may find a different approach that you never thought to try.
lets let other people draw their own conclusions.

i personally think that the apps from around the time of Tiger are very functional + usefull.
much more so on an intel machine.. this is true.. but they are still functional on powerpc.
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php?topic=147.0

especially if you are a composer.. using external hardware synths&gear...
some vsts are good. but lets be honest. alot of them are shit.

There are a few reasons why OSX is not for me on the G4:

- SoundDiver and its Autolink with Logic are too important to me. I have more or less grown old of most virtual instruments and have a spiralling amount of MIDI outboard instead. Lack of total recall in OSX for my patches would drive me insane.
- My Korg Oasys PCI does not work on OSX. Easily the best ever DSP virtual synth/instrument card done for a Mac.
- Apple dumped support for Emagic's AMT MIDI time stamping protocol on OSX and replaced it with vanilla OSX support. To the risk of being flamed to death, I have never experienced tighter MIDI than with Unitor/AMT8 devices natively linked to Logic in OS9.
- As some of you say, OSX is sluggish on anything less than a G5. I don't remember loving it that much on my dual G5 either and I only use 10.9 on my 2012 MBP because it's a quad core i7.

I don´t see any good reason for a X zone here. There are hundrets of possibilities out there to talk about X. But - be honest - from the beginning of X onward, Apple tried to make 9-users live harder. How does Cameron Kaiser say it: "Apple wants us to recycle our perfectly good classic Macs and stick us on the soulless consumer treadmill."

And the most annoying thing is we are takling about 2 completely different Operating Systems. As different as Windows and Linux. For Mac OS 9 users it is totally hard to find informations for their OS, and to differ them from X informations/programs/etc. . If people now will permanently have to look if the information/posting is for X or for 9 here as well, it may become really uninterresting, as long as you are not a daily user of both systems. The snow in this forum is already quite much, and it just will become harder when we include a totally different OS.

The other problem is, the more X informations will appeare here, the more assumed easyer solutions with X will be posted. Like IIO above is talking about X for rar and mp4. Why? Both are working well with Mac OS 9 (macrar, and QT mp4). So a kind of "assimilation force" will appeare.
And really, I had enough silly comments the last 10 years in forums around the world, telling for every problem with 9; "take X".  All the lies what 9 cannot do, where you allegedly need X for, ...

And it will not stop with X and PPC, already here in this thread we can read Intel is better in some cases, so the "assimilation force" will even become bigger, and there are no good reasons to talk about X for PPC and not for Intel, ...

And finally, I would be interrested about how the statement "Those days are over. OSX talk can't damage our OS9 status" evolved. Was there any internal discussion, some experiances you made the last year, any public talk about it that I didn´t get? Because it is exactly what I would expect. And when you once feared it like I do now, it would be totally interresting why this times should have changed.

There is value, IMHO, in having an X section. Many X resources focus on Intel Macs which, to the purist at least, are just PCs in Apple clothing 
In my personal opinion, the Mac mystique has been watered down progressively over the years and it's all a bit generic in the world of the modern day Mac and MAC OS.

For example, my almost done 6 card TDM Mix system would probably run fairly well on 10.3.6 but it's just not on my list of priorities to try to do so as I have a ton of work to finish the studio as it is and, to me at least, it's a case of fully restoring the environment that I was most comfortable with over the years, rather than fiddling for the sake of it. I think there is value in that and at the same time totally 'get' how we all have different needs and use cases for 9, X, both or whatever.

I view this site as a quality resource for the G3-G4 era of Mac computing, which is a period very dear to me. If you guys want to open a forum subsection for Yellow Dog Linux, well, that would be a bit more specialist but fair game probably.

its fine to have an opinion.. but when u are person A with the opinion.
and person B is having a problem and asking for help .. or looking to find out information
(which is equally as antiquated + hard to find) .. u need to respect Person B's needs / goals / aspirations...
Person A's Opinion is not more important then Person B's needs.

they have as much right to try to find a solution to their problem as anyone else.

the whole sub board thing is bullshit imho it would have been a much easier thing to
let people talk freely abotu what they need to. rather then to have to make an admin handpick + sort things.. as long as the content is titled properly then there would be no need for sub boards + extra work to categorize + sort.

if all u people that bicker and spout off your useless opinions would focus on actually contributing usefull info here, we might actually get somewhere valuable.