Also, if someone could verify... How sensitive are the 8600 and 9600 series to PRAM battery issues?  I will be ordering a few but until they get here I would still like to make progress (making progress is how the SO is willing to let me have three antique beige towers in the breakfast nook while I work on them).

Thanks again everyone.  I do not remember resolving problems this frustrating back in 97-98 but back then everything was mostly new I suppose.