Thread

color monitor for the apple ///

color monitor for the apple /// Software 10 posts Oct 30, 2013 — Nov 1, 2013

#1 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 - 01:48

Here is a picture of a Apple color monitor 100 hooked up to an Apple ///

#2 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 - 02:08

Very cool. That needs a special card for that, no? The rest of the pics are great too. Thanks for sharing.

One other off-topic question. Does the Profile cable have the center pin missing on the top row of the 25 pin cable? I've been trying to revive a couple of 5MB Profiles but can't seem to low-level format them with a Zilog Z8603 (with proper ROM) and BLU on a Lisa 2/5 or 2/10 with a parallel card.

Thanks.

#3 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 - 02:31

That needs a special card for that, no?

I don't think so... that comes right out the back of the ///. The IIe required an RGB card.

One other off-topic question. Does the Profile cable have the center pin missing on the top row of the 25 pin cable?

Then I'll feel free to butt in. ;-) Yep - mine does.

I've been trying to revive a couple of 5MB Profiles but can't seem to low-level format them with a Zilog Z8603 (with proper ROM) and BLU on a Lisa 2/5 or 2/10 with a parallel card.

I didn't know you could LL format without formatting software on the /// (in addition to the chip)...?

#4 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 - 03:33

Very cool. That needs a special card for that, no?

Apple /// has built-in colour, better colour than the Apple II!

Unfortunately, the Monitor /// that matches the Apple /// is monochrome, and apple never built a matching colour monitor :-/

#5 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 - 16:29

I don't think I've ever seen an Apple color monitor like that.

#6 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 - 17:25

They're heavy, with motorized tilt control... one of those forgotten little niceties like the 2-speed arrow keys on the ///.

#7 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 - 22:56

Thanks for the info. Now I remember why I was looking for one for so long. I totally forgot why

I recently bought a Apple Color Composite IIe and thought I was done because I thought I was looking for one for a IIe but I guess not. It was the Apple /// I was eyeing it for. Th ey are pretty rare.

@david__schmidt Yu can read more about BLU at http://sigmasevensystems.com/BLU I've only had it work on a Widget for me but looks like CelGen got it to, at least, format before becoming corrupt. Can't say I've had the luxury of seeing that

#8 Wed, 30 Oct 2013 - 23:37

you could use the monitor 100 on the //e and gs. You have to open it up and change a jumper from 16 bit ot 8 bit video.

inside the Apple color monitor 100 on the main pc bard, almost directly under the neck of

the crt, there is a slide switch labeled "16color/8color. To make the monitor work with the

11gs, set the swith to 8color position, and use the cable provided with the monitor

(svs part# 590-0194A) to connect it to the llgs. This configuration makes all colors

available.

#9 Fri, 1 Nov 2013 - 02:19

I've only had it work on a Widget for me but looks like CelGen got it to, at least, format before becoming corrupt.

BLU didn't format my drive. The LOS installer did. BLU however can LLF a ProFile if the Z8 and format ROM are present (and a jumper I believe?)

#10 Fri, 1 Nov 2013 - 02:42

I stand corrected. I have the Z8603 and format ROM/jumper for a 5MB Profile and a Z8613 plus format ROM/jumper for the 10MB Profile but haven't had to format my 10MB Profile. In my case three 5MB Profile drives wouldn't complete the low-level format properly with BLU. BLU did low-level format a Widget drive but it doesn't need any special chips or ROMs.

Celgen, it sounds like you need a low-level format.

I have been thinking of using the earlier version of BLU to see if that makes a difference. One of my drives was a IBM compatible Seagate ST-506 drive that I switched the boards on and this is one of the three drives I couldn't format. Unfortunately, I don't have a PC that has the proper MFM card with BIOS that will allow me to low-level format in DOS to see if the drives would work on a PC.

I'm losing hope on them but the failure in BLU is consistent. Unfortunately, I don't have a Apple /// Profile card in my Apple /// and special software to try that route.