nope the video was not a problem just running onboard video at 640x480 at this quark of progression.

i did naturally have VM on with the other 2 iisi macs with their big fast hd's

i think that is really why i wanted to turn VM on with this machine only because its something they had and this one didn't.

So you want me to pull the ram from bank b, run the IIsi only from the 4meg onboard + VM and see if it locks up?

I could try this.