on the Brake: yes, that was what finally let it spin up. I have the Pina book, and the lisa repair guide pdf, those have been helpful. And of course the Lisa FAQ. Lots of googling to get me this far, but I ran out of answers, so...

I mean, it could still be that the floppies I made, and the originals, and the HD are all bad. That could easily be true. Before I try to go hunt down someone who has "working" disks, I thought I'd see if this sounds familiar to anyone here.