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68kMLA Troubleshooting 66 posts May 1, 2007 to May 24, 2007
Well, we're back up and running - albeit with a fresh install and in a slightly different location!

Sorry about the huge delay in getting this ship back in the water, but we're back... and hopefully better than ever. You may notice that the forums look a bit different - please bear with me while I get the old template back online. You may also notice that we've lost the last three and a bit years of posts and members. I can only apologise for that, and offer what little explanation I can.

Basically, iPowerWeb pulled the account that the MLA was hosted on. Unfortunately, in doing so, they lost the SQL database. Now we did make occasional backups (but nowhere near as frequently as we should), but as if that wasn't bad enough, these backups are nowhere to be found on our local machines. So, in the end, we've just had to start from scratch!

The latest backup I have personally is from Feb 2006, so we'll try and get that set up as an archive. Of course, if we manage to locate a newer one, we'll get that up.

Anyway, for now, go, explore and I hope you enjoy the new 68kMLA!

i'm number 12. not even the latest member. already been over taken by IPnixon. I'm guessing a flood of people over the next 8 hours will (re)register.

off to watch dateline. later.

-digital ;)

It's great that it's finally back online, but it is extremely bad news about the last 3 1/2 years worth of members, posts and threads being lost.

In less than just a year, myself, JDW, and others made huge strides in figuring out kinks with and discussing problems and possible solutions with very valuable and rare compact mac upgrades.

I'm sure other information just as important was lost as well. It really makes me want to cry.

lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol #tts

:D :) :beige: :b&w:

I'm heeeeeeeeeere. I miss my nearly 2000 post :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Well, I hope the forum can survive this setback. (I plan to make the 100000 post again in like... 2 years.

w00000000000000000000t!!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

It's great to be back on here!

By the way, I was able to get quite a lot of the posts back from Google's cache. I'm also trying to do the same off of archive.org, but it will take a bit of time.

Of course that's going to be in HTML so I'll need to find a way to script a messager chopper so that they can go back into the database, but the odds are good that a lot of it can be recovered.

Greetings here from number 27. Now, just like a fresh operating system install, time to fill it with many many things :-p

Glad to be back.

I never realized how much I liked this place until it was gone.

I noticed a change in this place after we moved last time. So it will be interesting to see what happens this time.

So here is to the third generation of the 68Kmla.

Yay!!! Good to finally have the 68KMLA back online. Thanks, guys! :)

Wow, I used to lurk here all the time, and was up to about 110 posts after three years, which made me seem reasonable. Now, just... uh oh....

Yay!

Sucks that we had to do another nuke 'n pave, but at least we're back!

:)

My part of the deal is still crapped out though. I'll try some more stuff with the hotline server, such as a mobo/NIC change and a fresh OS install... and I'm also going to do a full HDD backup on that while i'm home this next week. It's a real mess right now. :I

i really missed this place and i'm glad it's back.

and the best thing is: now i can ask as many dumb noob questions as i want without people telling me to use the search function!!!!

so where is the powerbutton on my plus? [:D] ]'>

A new start, a clean slate for the 68kMLA. A whole stack of new opportunities open.

Congratulations on 68kMLA Rev. C! *opens a bottle of fine wine*

I can't believe I didn't see this before, but in responce to Sunder's post I have to wish him luck in recovering a great deal of our posts so they can be thrown in to the archives.

Seeing the Hotline Server back will be great soon as well. I'm not sure what could have gone on with it, because it's still completing the handshaking process successfully, just not synchronization. Good luck with that Quadrajet (dropped the S?).

Hooray!! but yeah...

bad news about the last 3 1/2 years worth of ... huge strides in figuring out kinks with and discussing problems and possible solutions with very valuable and rare compact mac upgrades.
Gave me the incentive to finally join. I love close-knit communities :b&w:

Good to have the forum back, I was really missing it!
i broke my mouse hitting reload.

true story.
I hit my 68kmla bookmark (which has pride of place at the centre of the bookmarks bar) every single day. It was a joyful moment when something other than a 404 error came up today!

Basically, iPowerWeb pulled the account that the MLA was hosted on. Unfortunately, in doing so, they lost the SQL database.
I hope you're not with them anymore. That's pathetic.

Anyway, VERY GLAD to be back.

I hit my 68kmla bookmark (which has pride of place at the centre of the bookmarks bar) every single day. It was a joyful moment when something other than a 404 error came up today!
i found out my logging into the IRC channel for the...3rd time ever!

and we found out that my laptop is not mine to control 8-o

and we found out that my laptop is not mine to control 8-o
What? :?:
oh, somebody (i'm sorry i don't remember lawl :p :I ) mentioned that the forums going down was all Alk's fault and at the exact same time my iTunes crashed.

he said it again and i un-plugged my network connection for a few mins to give the perception that the power of Alk had crashed my whole computer.

it was funny at the time because i was bored.

Ah I see now - thanks for explaining :)
you're most welcome. i'm doing my best not to study for my exam in....2 hours, so this is a very helpful tool :D

GOD, bloody windows user... Everything needs to be explained...
I guess I should ask you this question that has been on my mind since I discovered this place - what exactly is this MAC thing that seems to be talked about all the time here? I've heard of this "O. S. X." thingy as well - am I right in thinking it's a really cool skin for Windows XP that gives you a menu along the top of the screen and replaces the taskbar with a bar of iocns that bounce up and down when you click on them? And what is that thing up in the top left corner of this site? It's very similar colours to the Windows logo, but it's in a really strange shape, as if it's meant to be a piece of fruit or something like that?

;)

GOD, bloody windows user... Everything needs to be explained...
I guess I should ask you this question that has been on my mind since I discovered this place - what exactly is this MAC thing that seems to be talked about all the time here? I've heard of this "O. S. X." thingy as well - am I right in thinking it's a really cool skin for Windows XP that gives you a menu along the top of the screen and replaces the taskbar with a bar of iocns that bounce up and down when you click on them? And what is that thing up in the top left corner of this site? It's very similar colours to the Windows logo, but it's in a really strange shape, as if it's meant to be a piece of fruit or something like that?
You Windows users, you always like to kid around, don't you?

But seriously folks, it's good to be back at 68kmla.org.

Its great to see the site up and running again!

I was really missing this place

yea, i missed it, ill admit, i tried the url at least a couple times a day

Hello from number 51 it's great to be back. I did like the 404 errors - beats a M$ jet error any day! ;)

Well. Here we are. Good to be back.

Best get to writing a script to get my post count back to where it was...

Oh never mind.

Thank god for that, I can't explain how shitty I felt not having my 68kmla here :(

Thank you for coming back.

Oh man, I was going nuts without you guys! I've been working on getting my Color Classic online, and while the folks over at AppeFritter were very helpful and gracious, the 68kMLA will always be my home...

:-)

Huxley

I have so missed this group, and could not believe my luck finding that it's back! On a hunch I did a google search and found the new location [:)] ]'>

All searches for "68kMLA" or "68k Macintosh Liberation Army" now go to the PPCMLA or a few other AF, etc threads.

They stole our Google Rankings! :/

I have instructed the Googlebot to reindex the forums though, so with some luck we'll have the forums back on the search fairly soon.

Good to see the 68kmla back with all its members.

Now to choose an avatar ...

Yay! I'm back...and please feel free to blame me for the whole ordeal, it really is pretty much my fault.

[:I] ]'>

That being said, I'm glad we're back, even if in a less than perfect state. Also, I'd like to thank everyone for their patience, I got quite a number of emails and IMs during the outage and if nothing else it sure is good to know how passionate we all are about this little forum!

We won't blame you for this Cine. If anything, we owe you and ~tl a great applause for seeing this entire ordeal through to restoration. Let's not also forget our great Mods and IRC operators.

This strangely feels like the 68kMLA awards night all over again. :p

I am very sad for the loss of back ups but it is very good that you are back!

Nice ta be back back, Tom !

And now we have avatars !!

WOOT! WOOT! lol

:b&w:

I wrote this when the forums were down. Actually, it was placed online just before the forums came back, but i've decided to share it with you all regardless.

The 6 Stages of Downtime by iMac600

Panic. You realise whatever it is you enjoyed so well has become out of your reach. Inaccessible. You panic, joining fellow users at any place you can to explain your withdrawal symptoms and group together.

Rumors. You all talk, discussing what could have happened. A lot of unusual points are thrown around in the process, including the one person who always suggests supernatural or paranormal activity caused the issue.

Contact. You frantically try to contact anyone in higher power. The admins, a mod, a hosting company, the President. Anyone. Usually expecting an answer at best. And often you get it, and it ends here. But in some cases, the admin doesn't know either, and so it continues.

Ideas. Everyone gathers around to get ideas for the revival of the downed site. Payments and donations, offering server space, making a temporary community where everyone can go. None of it ever happens though, which is probably why this stage is completely useless. But amusing none-the-less. It has a similar feel to stage 2.

Nostalgia. At this point it's been down for a while, and you start to remember all of the good times we had. Posts, events, trades... all the information and more. Everyone gets around to have fun by pretending the community is still online, remembering threads crystal clear (and in some cases posting on to them in the IRC channel). Similar threads are thrown around, from the same and other communities.

Acceptance. This usually takes a long time to get to. It's not easy to just move on, especially if you're the kind with the forum logo burned in to your mind. Sometimes this stage is often halted abruptly though, so it doesn't even really count. Hence the "6" stages. It stops usually before it begins, so it's either this stage...

Or...

Restoration. The community springs back in to life again, fully restored in one way or another. All the previous stages seem to somehow erase from your mind as you dash back to claim the title of "First Post on the New Forum".
8) :p

...it is extremely bad news about the last 3 1/2 years worth of members, posts and threads being lost. In less than just a year, myself, JDW, and others made huge strides in figuring out kinks with and discussing problems and possible solutions with very valuable and rare compact mac upgrades. I'm sure other information just as important was lost as well. It really makes me want to cry.
I makes me want to do more than just cry. There was a tremendous amount of very detailed and useful information posted that we all should do everything within our means to restore. I think it is still possible to resort it.

One idea I had was to tap into Google's cache of forum pages. I see that one poster earlier in this thread mentions the same. But rather than just relying on Google for accessing that information (which, by the way, won't be cached forever you know), it would be best to restore it here.

If a few of us, active in the threads, were to copy the content of our posts and re-post it into a new thread, we could restore a lot of information that would be helpful to classic Mac users. Another side benefit of this approach would be that we could then filter out all the silly "thank you" and meaningless posts, keeping the topic 100% on-topic and useful. With only pertinent posts added back, it would also make wading through the information much easier for newcomers.

For example, I searched Google for my "JDW" name and some keywords I could remember about my SE/30 power supply posts. The search allowed me to bring up this cached page.

Thoughts?

There's already a thread about the possibility of restoring the posts from Google's web cache.

http://68kmla.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97

I've been looking at the pages sunder saved, and it should be possible to get a script whipped up to parse the files and save the data into a MySQL database in a format that can then be imported into phpBB. It's going to take quite a bit of work to get everything set up for that, so don't expect anything immediately, but I should be able to get something working soon.

The other option is to set up some sort of "information base" where we can archive all the useful things that come up on the forums. For reference, forums aren't really the best way of presenting the information. A wiki would probably work quite nicely, and there have been discussions about setting one up in the past. I'll take another look into that.

I am so glad the forums are back. I joined up with the PPC-MLA in hopes of getting getting back in contact with some former members from here.

Sure it sucks about the data loss and all. Some will be recovered, some will not. In the end though, the forum has survived and will be just as strong, if not stronger than it was before.

In a geeky way I am glad the forums are back up. I have loved the mac and more importantly it's OS for years now. The 68kMLA was one of my daily visited (often for hours on end) forums. Heck I would visit more than once a day.

Congrats Tom on getting things back up to where they are. Don't sweat the details are I am sure everyone here will be more than happy to lend a hand.

On that note, I would love my captains bars back.