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iSub 2000: Need dire help tracking down OS9 Audio Update/USB Audio Extension!
I'm pretty sure this is the correct subforum to post this in--
I need to track down the Mac OS 9 Audio Update version 1.3, in probably the worst way. I have no USB Audio Extension on my machine, and all links that point to the file via Google or otherwise point to the downed file in the dead section of Apple's FTP that they've intentionally 404'd for no good reason.
Otherwise, I merely need the USB Audio Extension from therein by itself, that is the end goal here.
I'm trying to get an old harman-kardon iSub to work again on an OS9-running machine and although I have the latest version of the USB support files for OS9 (1.4.1), I do not have the audio extension-- it is nowhere to be seen and does not seem to come packed with said files. This is very frustrating as I don't even have these files on my beige G3 or any of my other backups from years past.
If anyone knows where I can obtain a copy of this update which has since been lost to the internet ages, I'd be extremely grateful.
and I know it exists-- there's tons of archived news sites and forum posts globally about it and problems and fixes and an issue with the 1.2 version that made Apple take it down and replace it with the 1.3 update.
I need to track down the Mac OS 9 Audio Update version 1.3, in probably the worst way. I have no USB Audio Extension on my machine, and all links that point to the file via Google or otherwise point to the downed file in the dead section of Apple's FTP that they've intentionally 404'd for no good reason.
Otherwise, I merely need the USB Audio Extension from therein by itself, that is the end goal here.
I'm trying to get an old harman-kardon iSub to work again on an OS9-running machine and although I have the latest version of the USB support files for OS9 (1.4.1), I do not have the audio extension-- it is nowhere to be seen and does not seem to come packed with said files. This is very frustrating as I don't even have these files on my beige G3 or any of my other backups from years past.
If anyone knows where I can obtain a copy of this update which has since been lost to the internet ages, I'd be extremely grateful.
and I know it exists-- there's tons of archived news sites and forum posts globally about it and problems and fixes and an issue with the 1.2 version that made Apple take it down and replace it with the 1.3 update.
right after posting I found one...
does anybody know if it is possible to tweak a powermac motherboard to take (much cheaper and easier to get) 3.3V instead of the 5V DIMMs?
pinouts are all the same. I know that they don´t fit physically because the small holes are in different positions but that is not the problem. you can easiely wide them so that they would fit.
my intention is that I can do same trace routing on the motherboard to find out where the power for the RAM slots come from and then feed a 3.3V supply instead of the 5V in there.
Is it that easy?
Thoughts please...
does anybody know if it is possible to tweak a powermac motherboard to take (much cheaper and easier to get) 3.3V instead of the 5V DIMMs?
pinouts are all the same. I know that they don´t fit physically because the small holes are in different positions but that is not the problem. you can easiely wide them so that they would fit.
my intention is that I can do same trace routing on the motherboard to find out where the power for the RAM slots come from and then feed a 3.3V supply instead of the 5V in there.
Is it that easy?
Thoughts please...
Mac_OS_9_Audio_Update_1.3.smi.bin or
Mac_OS_9_Audio_Update_1.3.smi.hqx
Both appear here: http://web.archive.org/web/20000229154011/http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11573
Sounds like a good way to release the magic smoke. There is a reason the small holes are in different positions.
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Exactly my issue! This is why I'm at least looking for the USB Audio Extension, which should be integral in most iMac and PowerMac G3 installs, at the very least-- Unless the features from this are integrated into another USB extension I don't know about. I know for a fact I was able to get my G4 Cube to use the iSub waaaaaaaaaay back in Classic 9.2.2, but the hard drive to that thing is long lost in my plethora of stuff-- and the only known backup of it is long since gone. I'm not sure if I ever made a copy of any of it to my Mac Mini, let alone my G4 Cube, so that's another issue I face right there.
I also have a couple of iMacs (iBoatAnchor G3 350 non-DV) in the attic and at least one 500MHz snow, I'd have to look and see if any of them have any sort of working 9.x install. I know at least one that's in my care in the BASEMENT at the least has a drive I know to have 9.2.2 on, but I'd have to get RAM for it and dig it out of all the clutter. it's just too much work, especially if I can get it from somewhere on the internet from someone that owns a G3-era oldworld/newworld Mac with a running 9.x install AND that extension-- it'd be the ultimate silver platter option, especially since I have 0 idea if these have that file of which I seek.
And don't forget, even if you were to change the power supply on the ram, you'd still be up the creek. The memory talks to other chips, of course, and they're going to continue driving with their larger voltages (and expecting same). Again, that's a recipe for emitting much magic smoke.
Not exactly what I was looking for, but definitely in the cards to try.
it seems someone made a comment back about 14 years ago on some website that Apple had a deal with harman/kardon that only allowed the iSub to work on the iMac and PowerMac G3 B&W, unsure if it'll work on the beige, though.
so it seems I solved my own issue in the midst of confusion. Apparently the Sub shows up all proper in the system profiler, just doesn't activate and show up under the Sounds control panel.
So they signed a deal to only allow their pretty speakers to work with the pretty Macs of the time... lame.
The official users guide (http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/ISUB_OM_EN.pdf) Says its Only for the 350mhz imac computers and faster, and not the PowerMac G3, G4 or Powerbooks.
That's a very particular device and I'm highly confused as to why they would do that. I have a 350mhz G3 imac with OS 9.2.2 if you want me to fire it up and look for that driver. Maybe we can change an identifier in it or something to make it function on other macs.
The official users guide (http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/ISUB_OM_EN.pdf) Says its Only for the 350mhz imac computers and faster, and not the PowerMac G3, G4 or Powerbooks.
That's a very particular device and I'm highly confused as to why they would do that. I have a 350mhz G3 imac with OS 9.2.2 if you want me to fire it up and look for that driver. Maybe we can change an identifier in it or something to make it function on other macs.
I would love that.
it seems that they bundled it in with the Apple Audio Extension in later versions? that or some USB support extension. it would be rather interesting to get this thing working on a non-G3 USB Mac; although the only non-G3 mac I have actually has a G3 upgrade and is in fact not even a Mac at all, but a clone!
(and a 6500/275 but I stole the RAM from that to get 640MB, muhahahahaha.)
if it can be edited to allow any Mac to use it, that'd be something, and one less headache for all those that still have one of these USB iSubs and refuses to admit it.
IIRC they stopped being supported somewhere in 10.6 in OSX, so I think most people threw them out. They work very primitively on WIndows but can't be used in parallel with another sound output as only Bass as that's against the driver model.