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So...Whatchagunnado?

68kMLA Hardware 44 posts May 4, 2007 to May 18, 2007
I'm going to try (99% sure unsuccessfully) to get my TI-99/4a on the internet..Or at least irc. maybe.

What about you?

I was going to use my LC475 exclusively for a month to do EVERYTHING I normally do (graphic design, website redesign, editing my blog on blogspot, household finances, grab pics from my ancient Kodak digital camera, internet stuff) but its logic board recently died.

Now, I'm not so sure. I'll figure something out soon...

Well... for backup I had This running for a while. before a Lightning strike hit the pole outside (killed the telephone, TV tuner, Cable Modem, and several power systems (along with all of our computers and my PowerBrick for my Pismo and iBook G3 (don't tell apple that when I sent that one in, it didn't die naturally ;) ) )

Anyways, that worked for floppy archives. i got another hard drive exactly like the one in that. but other than that, I sadly don't have any vintage machines other than my B&W G4 (upgraded to a Yikes! CPU) would that count? Probably not :-(

I would quite like to use my Mac Plus for a month. It was my main computer about 5 or 6 years ago and I used it exclusively for about 6 months before getting an LC 475.

What are the rules here though? Do you have to use a retro machine for everything, or is it acceptable to use a more modern machine for internet and other neccessities that may not be entirely possible with an old machine. I'm a newcomer to this concept.

mine isn't that special but i really want to do it.

over the past few months i've been starting to use my SE/30 more and more. if there is a job i can use my se/30 for then i allways will but i obviously can't use it for everything. (photo editing, gis and autocad to name a few)

during the retro challenge i should have more time then i do now so i think i'm going to dedicate that time to putting as much functionality in my SE/30 as possible so i can use it more often and for more tasks then i can now.

first of all i want to upgrade my SE/30 (new screen, 1gb hard drive and more ram)

i also want to get some of my old hardware working again (a scsi cabinet with 2 18gb hard drives and a StyleWriter)

and get some new hardware (scsi zip drive, maybe a scanner and a cd drive)

and then i want to find more software. i would like more games but they are easy to find and not a very big priority. i need more productivity stuff. a good technical drawing program, flowchart etc etc

something i'm keeping in the back of my mind is to find a working hard drive for my pb100. but ill doubt that i will find something

well, to keep me from renigging on my promise (i.e. cheat) I am letting my friend borrow my iBook G4 1.2hz for the rest of the month, and am going to use my PowerMac B&W G4 (w/1GB RAM and a 32MB PCI Radeon 7000) and a 160GB internal drive. I am going to try to use my faster PC less to make sure I maximize the time on the G4 :p

Anyway, i will let you know if the "Crack" get's the best of me and I am going to have to go into retro-rehab next month to kick my addiction to fast speeds :p

I know this needs to be retro, but this is the slowest machine that I own (aside from my mom's imac DV which doesn't belong to me anyways) so you gotta let me work with what I got [:D] ]'>

well, to keep me from renigging on my promise (i.e. cheat) I am letting my friend borrow my iBook G4 1.2hz for the rest of the month, and am going to use my PowerMac B&W G4 (w/1GB RAM and a 32MB PCI Radeon 7000) and a 160GB internal drive. I am going to try to use my faster PC less to make sure I maximize the time on the G4 :p
Anyway, i will let you know if the "Crack" get's the best of me and I am going to have to go into retro-rehab next month to kick my addiction to fast speeds :p

I know this needs to be retro, but this is the slowest machine that I own (aside from my mom's imac DV which doesn't belong to me anyways) so you gotta let me work with what I got [:D] ]'>
Doesn't really need to be retro. I think this year the challenge is just gonna be do whatever you want, if someone wants to use there Powermac G5 and call that retro, they are free to do so, but people are probably going to be more interested in the person using a Classic or something. Also, stepping down from a 1.2g4 to a 450mhz(or whatever your b&w g4 is) is always a fun challenge.

I'll probably just record some music with my Quadra or something.

stepping down from a 1.2g4 to a 450mhz(or whatever your b&w g4 is) is always a fun challenge.
It wouldn't be much of a challenge though - I reckon I could easily use my G3 instead of my PC if I wasn't bothered about not being able to play many games during that time. It does everything else pretty well, and I quite like using OS X too :)

using os 9 for a day that in it self is already terror enough
I used OS 9 for a week or so. It's really not that bad. I miss it in some ways, and not so much in others.

i hate classic

i am a os X user i came i using jaguar and never had any attachment to os 9 or erlier

i hate system 6 almost as much as i hate system 7

if i must use classic which i do with the utmost loathing then i prefer to use 8 and up

Not even System 6? Everyone loves System 6. :p ;)
I don't especially like System 6, I can never understand why people use it on Macs that will happily run 7.6.1, it's just really old-fashioned and has no features at all! 9.1 is the beat Classic OS in my opinion. 7.6.1 is OK for 68ks, although it would be nice if you could have desktop wallpapers in it, a feature that was missing from the Mac OS for far too long!

You people are crazy! Remember, even though we accept PowerPC now, it's still the 68k Macintosh Liberation Army, and we have to respect our elders! :p

System 6 Forever, IMHO. It's more retro than Mac OS 7-9 could ever wish to be.

Finally, System 6 was the last Mac OS coded entirely in Assembly Code.

No Classic OS is especially stable, but you can still pick the best Classic OS just like you can pick the best Windows 9x. We should have a "what's your favourite Classic OS" vote :p

jaguar on a G5 blazing fast as well
Jaguar?! That's really slow isn't it, it was before they really optimised OS X from Panther onwards. Maybe on a G5 it's still fast, but something newer would be a lot better :p

You people are crazy! Remember, even though we accept PowerPC now, it's still the 68k Macintosh Liberation Army, and we have to respect our elders! :p
System 6 Forever, IMHO. It's more retro than Mac OS 7-9 could ever wish to be.
No 68k requires System 6 though (they can all run 7, except the 128/512 which I don't think can run 6 either), so it's not really a 68k thing. I always associate 7 with 68ks, as that's what they were always running when you used to see them in use. And retro's not necessarily better, that's like saying Windows 3.0 is better than Windows 95 just because it's older :p

You people are crazy! Remember, even though we accept PowerPC now, it's still the 68k Macintosh Liberation Army, and we have to respect our elders! :p
System 6 Forever, IMHO. It's more retro than Mac OS 7-9 could ever wish to be.

Finally, System 6 was the last Mac OS coded entirely in Assembly Code.
soon ppc wil be obsolete as well

i cant stand system6 iloath it even more then i loath 7

No Classic OS is especially stable, but you can still pick the best Classic OS just like you can pick the best Windows 9x. We should have a "what's your favourite Classic OS" vote :p

jaguar on a G5 blazing fast as well
Jaguar?! That's really slow isn't it, it was before they really optimised OS X from Panther onwards. Maybe on a G5 it's still fast, but something newer would be a lot better :p
i have no favorite clasic os though im partial to 8.6 then

windows 98 and win 2000

no jaguar is the point where os x actually became usuable

its plenty fast on a G3

i hate classic i am a os X user i came i using jaguar and never had any attachment to os 9 or erlier
Then why join the the MLA? The forum was meant for the preservation of classic macs, IE: ones that don't run OS X.

because ppc machines that run os x wil become obsolete some of them ARE obsolete

and just because i disliek the os that runs it doesnt mean i cant like the hardware

as soon as I get it, i'll be using my newton as my PRIMARY machine. that will be a challenge. I will load it up, and then go for a week on it, only interfacing with my B&W to backup/grab files/whatever.

I was thinking of using another one of my old powerbooks, but I feel that is not good enough.

If I can't get the newton and B&W playing nice together, I will use my Powerbook 1400 as a helper machine.

-digital ;)

...right your nuts ;p

if you really feel the need to use a older powerbook use the 1400 come on you know you want to

meh, I was thinking about it. 3gb HD, 40mb of ram, Mac OS 8.6, and the wavelan card. the battery only gets an hour or so. I can see why the 1400 was a budget model.

I have really been thinking of getting a 3400 or kanga. They seem to be really durable, and they have FEETS, something the 1400 is missing.

but for now, my mind is made up: i'll be working off my newton. I have the keyboard, all I need is a charger.

-digital ;)

id like a kanga or 3400 to

anyway i am thinking of my retro challance its strictly speaking not mac os

but i am thinking of giving that 486 a cd rom

instal dos 6.22 and windows 3.1 and go online with that

it has an ethernet card

the biggest challnce comes from my cable internt reconigsing windows 3.1

If I enter any challenges, i'll be using either Windows 3.1, Windows 95, System 6 or System 7 on a 68k or a 486. They're all fine OSes, and fine machines.

I reckon I will use my IIcx with System 6 or A/UX for a retrochallenge. Originally I was going to use the Plus or SE/30 but I thought a colour machine would make a nice change from what I'm used to. Also I haven't ever used the IIcx for anything productive, so it will be a good way to get the machine back on the road as such.

I have been using my B&W G4 for a while now (past 10 days) and find it quite fast. Then again, i have been using OS X. I might drop it down to OS 9 for more pain :p

That's about as Retro I can get, because I don't have any slower machines :( .

I know it's a lot, but for what I do, i NEED a fast computer. But in a way, i have enjoyed using my Blue and White again. It's surprisingly faster than I thought it would be. Plus, it's been on a botched install, so I am surprised it even runs

Welcome to my world! I have been using a Graphite 466MHz Sawtooth G4 for the last year and a half now as my main machine. I don't have any newer machines, so in my mind the G4 is pretty fast.

my B&W G3 400mhz (overclocked from 350), 512mb, 120gb OS X 10.4.9 machine has been my primary mac for almost a year and a half. It is quite nice, but I have been thinking of bumping up to either a sawtooth, dual processor, or quicksilver G4. My B&W has ran (in this order): Mac OS 9, Ubuntu 5.10, Mac OS 9, Ubuntu 6.06, Mac OS X 10.3, Mac OS X 10.4. It is running on the tiger installation from october of last year. Take that windows users who have to reinstall every month.

Thus, I do not consider using my B&W or my pismo as my challenge, since they are my daily drivers.

what is your primary machine, coius?

-digital ;)

my primary machine is my iBook 1.2Ghz. Soon, with the help of a friend ;) I will have a macbook (hopefully the black one) that will replace the iBook. That will be my main system then. but for gaming, the iBook and the PC are tied

I'll be using my se/30 to get on the net, the powerbook 100 or Portable for a laptop, the mac plus for some stuff, and the IIfx for non internet work(if i can't find a nubus rj45 ethernet card by then).

I'm not too sure, I've got so many choices here...

Is there any limit to how many retro machines that can be used over the span of the month?

the only computer in the house faster than 1ghz is my mother's toshiba laptop with a 1.8ghz celeron. currently it needs a hard drive, but I bumped up the ram from 256mb to 512mb, so Xp will run better. All I need to do now is find a Mini PCI wifi card, or whatever it takes. All I know is it looks like a Mini PCI, and there are 2 antenna connectors in the bay (the slot is in the same bay as the 2 memory slots).

anyways, my ideal setup would be my LC III, OCed from 25 to 33mhz, running on a full 36mb of ram, and a 250mb HD (up from 80mb), and a ethernet card in the PDS slot. Unfortunantly, that is disassembled, as we are in the process of "moving", as we have been for 2 years now. That was the first thing I packed up too...

but yeah, I ran that LC III setup as my primary machine for several months until I got my B&W. can you believe it? it's not a bad little box. and since, I have added a 256k vram simm, so I can get thousands of colurs. the monitor seems to be dying, as I get the swimming effect. Oh well, it's just the basic colour monitor. I know the machine needs a new mobo or something, as the audio circuitry is blown. I was thinking of adding in a Q605, P460/P466/P467/LC III+ board. I don't know, I don't really miss the audio. I do like the startup chime. I know the machine needs an OS reload. when I tried to run OS 7.6, it had a hard time for some reason. When it was my daily driver, it was running OS 7.5.5, and was very stable.

look at me, i'm rambleing.

-digital ;)

How many points do I get if i follow Edward Alcosser's book:

How to Build a Working Digital Computer(©1968) to build the computer, and use that for July?

PDF

Here's a review on it on

Amazon

and if you want more info on the computer google "Paperclip computer"

Speaking of old books on computer design... I've got a copy of "Logical design of digital computers" by Montgomery Phister, Jr. circa 1958, sitting right next to me. You know it's got to be legit if the word "digital", and "computer" are strung in the title.

Personally, I like the Noam Nisan and Shimon Schocken book "The Elements of Computing Systems" Published by MIT Press (so you know it's good stuff!) that I won at Toor Con on the panel with Captain Crunch. Good times.

Anyhow. I'd say, got to go with the 4-Bit system that is shown in the Radio Shack "Digital Electronics" book!

How many points do I get if i follow Edward Alcosser's book:How to Build a Working Digital Computer(©1968) to build the computer, and use that for July?
probably enough to make you the man of the match. i suggest you do it.