Just because a company is long gone, doesn't mean their products are no longer copyrighted. Aldus is long gone, but their copyrights were bought by Macromedia and then Adobe. You may think it's ok to pass around copies of Pagemaker 1.0 or early versions of Freehand, but it isn't. Adobe can sue the heck out of you if you're caught. I think the rule concerning abandonware should be removed as it is not needed and does look as if the mods here are saying "Go ahead and copy, we'll only stop you if it leads to problems for us." I think the abandonware issue should be a case of don't ask, don't tell. It should only be done in PM's and not in an open forum.