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Powerbook 1400c\166
I am waiting for 1400c\166 to be sent to me. I am going to run 7.6.1 with appearance manager on it for as long as possible
very nice. Good condition?
I highly advise against running the appearance manger. I use 8.6 on mine, and it is a little slow at times. I suggest sticking with 7.6.1, and use it as is. it will be very fast. That is, of course, unless you want to run IE 5.1 on it...
-digital
-digital
Nicely done. System 7.6 is a good choice of OS for the 1400, that's what mine runs too.
Nice. I run 8.1 on mine. How much ram and how big is the hard drive?
i always thought the speed gains were to be got from running os8.5 due to it being ppc native - no?
over and above ram considerations of course.
over and above ram considerations of course.
The 1400 is limited to 64 megs of RAM and MacOS 8 adds a lot of bloat over 7.6.1 and the minimum requirements are higher, so that offsets any speed gains to be had from using native PPC code. The 603 is no speed demon, either. It was the replacement for the 601 at the bottom of the PPC family. Head over to System 7 today and you'll see many of the members there use 1400's with 7.6.1 and get good use out of them.
http://main.system7today.com/
And here's their speed benchmarks comparing 7.6.1 to 8.1, 8.6 and 9.1.
http://main.system7today.com/articles/til/benchmarks.html
i'd run 8.1 personally, if for no other reason than HFS+ and the better looking UI.
Well, I totaly forgot i posted here already but here it goes. Powerbook is in the mail and on its way to me. It is a 166mhz with a 2gb hard drive and 16mb of ram. I already bought a ethernet card for it so i can do some web browsing (if i am lucky) And Dan 7.1 HFS+ on Nubus is limited to a 2GB drive, that means it is practiclay worthless if i ever do upgrade the drive. Also the Ui of 8.1 can be used on 7.6.1 using appearance manger so your two pluses are useless to me.
i...don't think thats true. i'll test it out tomorrow (if i can find time) and see if you're right or not.
you know - looking at those results i would still go with 8.5.
of course system folder is going to be bigger - what os upgrade makes it smaller?
same with memory - and not a huge jump anyway.
boot and restart times - well fast is good, but slow i can live with too, its not as though its a constant part of using a computer for a session.
the other two results are not dis-similar in my eyes.
I ran 7.6.1 for a while on mine and found 8.1 to be more stable.
As I said I run 7.6 on mine but today I received a 24MB RAM upgrade, giving my 1400 40MB of RAM total. I may or may not install OS 8 but for the time being I'm going to stick with 7.6 as it does everything I want my 1400 to do.
stick os8 on as a double boot using syspicker and you can give us a fresh look at a comparison?
I have 7.6 and 8.1 on my 540c and with 12mb ram 8.1 is usable with 8.1 - 7.6 is obviously way better speed wise, but it does cope with 8.1.
a pb1400 should do very well with 8.5 and 64mb ram I remember.
of course, stick your easy to come by and cheap G3 upgrade in there and we can argue if 8.6 or 9 is better!
;-)
I have 7.6 and 8.1 on my 540c and with 12mb ram 8.1 is usable with 8.1 - 7.6 is obviously way better speed wise, but it does cope with 8.1.
a pb1400 should do very well with 8.5 and 64mb ram I remember.
of course, stick your easy to come by and cheap G3 upgrade in there and we can argue if 8.6 or 9 is better!
;-)
I always thought they were rare and expensive. Luckily, I just picked one up, as well as a c screen, a video out card and a spares machine.
I thought about it but went with a Wallstreet instead. Now my 1400 does see much use.
it seems my *wink* was lost!
yup rare and expensive they are, particualry in the UK - i was lucky to have one - not even a particulary fast one and i sold it for £100 a couple of years back.
It Has Arrived!
Running the original install of Mac Os 7.6.1 (I checked, and there are documents on it from 1998 still that i deleted) Claris works 4 and all the other goodies. Got Speeddoubler 8 (just for 68k emulation speed up) and LibMoto(helps PPC speed ups, 8 had this built in but 7.6.1 did not)
Running the original install of Mac Os 7.6.1 (I checked, and there are documents on it from 1998 still that i deleted) Claris works 4 and all the other goodies. Got Speeddoubler 8 (just for 68k emulation speed up) and LibMoto(helps PPC speed ups, 8 had this built in but 7.6.1 did not)
i dont kno, i run 9.1 on my 1400cs/166 but mine has the fiull 64 mb of ram. it runs a little slow but it does what i need it to do.
I have 56 in mine, and 9.1 runs rather nicely.
Guys, 7.6.1 with Libmoto and Speed Doubler 8 just flys on the laptop.
Why LibMoto is a bad idea: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/libmoto.html
I run 9.1 on mine without any problems, but I've also got 64 MB of RAM and a G3 upgrade.
Peace,
Drew
I run 9.1 on mine without any problems, but I've also got 64 MB of RAM and a G3 upgrade.
Peace,
Drew
Back in the day, when I had a 1400, and then a 2400, the biggest advantage of 8.6 was improved power/battery management. Many of us saw an increase in battery life over 10% when we went from 8.1 or 8.5 to 8.6.
If you are running off AC power, then that won't be too much of a big deal. There really is not much you cannot do in 9.1 or 8.6 that you can't do in 7.6.1, especially if you use SpeedDoubler for the copying improvements. Of course, there will always be the odd program you need 8.x or 9.x for...
Looks like LibMoto is only good for skewing benchmarks, but useless in real world applications. Nice heads up before anyone else installs it.