LCII

I never had a LC. Is it a good machine? I am trying to avoid flops like the IIvx!

I haven't had to much experience with it yet.

I know that is works great for the simple tasks I push on it.

The inside is very easy to access.

I do think thats this one could use a fresh OS re-install though.

I have one. It's a great box, very stable, very good for basic use. Mine has a 68LC040 processor upgrade card though, so I don't know the performance without it, but with it it's great! I use it for playing Crystal Quest It has System 7.1 and the boot time is long but responsiveness is great.

Can't beat the price I got it for either. The guy I got it from booted it before he sold it to me and found out it had a problem, and gave it to me for free. I solved the problem(no money involved, no new parts) and now it's working perfect.

Make sure to put Crystal Quest on there!

I never had a LC. Is it a good machine? I am trying to avoid flops like the IIvx!

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as long as you keep in mind that its crippled and work with thos limitations in mind its an okay machine

Crippled? I'm aware of its technical limitations and compromises, but if you've ever used one, it's a very good machine. The 10mb RAM limit is the only one I find anywhere near 'crippling', and even that is not severe if you don't need to be doing anything really advanced.

so you dont call putting a 32 bit cpu on a 16 bit data bus crippeling then ?

I said I was aware of the technical compromises. However, in actual use the machine is perfectly usable and doesn't feel crippled, not at all.

personally id rather have a a full 32 bit data bus with my 32 bit cpu

i used an lc2 and wasnt very pleased

Have you used your Color Classic lately?

Relevant quote from LowEndMac:

The end of the Classic line in the North American market, the Color Classic shared the motherboard design of the LC II - equally limited in RAM expansion, constricted by a 16-bit data bus, and able to use 16-bit PDS cards designed for the LC. The only significant difference is the presence of a socket for adding a 68882 math coprocessor.

Why did apple bother to cripple so many systems?

:'(

Apple crippled systems to sell them at a lower price without cannibalizing the sales of more expensive machines.

I have an LC II, but I have not really used it much. We had a ton of LC III's in high school and those were pretty decent computers. A lot of people say the LC II is what the LC should have been. To me that is as much of a compliment to the LC II as a knock against the LC.

But it costs more to program a ram limit or cripple a cpu to work. Apple spent more crippling! Its cheaper to just make a non crippled computer. Leve the crippling to dell.

Exactly! This is ONE reason why Apple almost ran itself out of business in the 90's.