No matter how many google searches i do, i cannot get my G4 w/airport card to talk to my iBook w/airport card.

I create a network, i choose join on the other machine... now what?

i can't connect to either machine from the Connect to Server in the finder, and appletalk is on for both, as both machines play nice when using the ethernet cables

anyone got a step by step guide?
do i need to match tcp/ip details?
bueller?