Regarding the Gradients Zaz, I was speaking of the colored gradients, liike the titlebars and menu selections. I dont have any specific ideas for them, just that it would e a good place to do a little experimenting. I'd do some web searching on keywords like industrial and the like to see what type of imagery starts popping up. Or maybe just use higher contrast gradient maps to get them to "pop" a little more. When I think of Industrial, I think hard, sharp edges, heavy duty, not pretty but workmanlike. Industrial speaks to me as "macho". This theme should sweat .heh.