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Unable to install themes on new systems?
I just got the new Dual 1.25 Ghz Powermac. The one that only boots into OS X. I've tried a few different themes but none of them work. When I restart, i get the missing system folder icon. It blinks with a question mark. The only way to fix it is to stick the Software Restore DVD in, and do an Archive and Install. Its a pain, especially since I've done it three times now. The only thing I can think of is that the new machines have something built into the ROM that will only boot a valid, unmodified OS X System folder. Since the themes modify the system, it thinks its OS 9 or something. Anyone else having similar problems?
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If I remember reading another thread on there correctly, it's the BootX file. Don't install the BootX file and you'll be fine.
I guess that would make sense. Is there anyone out there who has tried this? I dont want to have to install the system again.
Alright, thanks. I'll give it a go and post my results.
Didn't work. I had to reinstall for the 4th time. That was fun. Id advise anyone who wants to install themes on the new systems not to do so.
If anyone finds a fix for this apparent problem, I've to know. I am having trouble being creative without my themed OS X.
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Well, the only reason that your system wouldn't boot like that would be if your BootX was broken, so you must have installed BootX.
Which theme was it..?
It's true that themes with a BootX file will not work with new computer with 10.2.4 preinstalled, because the have a newer BootX file. However, it's safe to apply themes if you upgraded an older computer to 10.2.4.
I will update my themes during the next week so that none of them install the BootX file, because I'm guessing that Apple will eventually upgrade it for everyone and then it will cause a lot of problems.
It's true that themes with a BootX file will not work with new computer with 10.2.4 preinstalled, because the have a newer BootX file. However, it's safe to apply themes if you upgraded an older computer to 10.2.4.
I will update my themes during the next week so that none of them install the BootX file, because I'm guessing that Apple will eventually upgrade it for everyone and then it will cause a lot of problems.
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Originally posted by bOOzo: Which theme was it..? It's true that themes with a BootX file will not work with new computer with 10.2.4 preinstalled, because the have a newer BootX file. However, it's safe to apply themes if you upgraded an older computer to 10.2.4. I will update my themes during the next week so that none of them install the BootX file, because I'm guessing that Apple will eventually upgrade it for everyone and then it will cause a lot of problems. |
I will be doing the same, the updated themes will be available by monday. I wonder if the same will start happening with QuartzDisplay ?
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Originally posted by swiz: I will be doing the same, the updated themes will be available by monday. I wonder if the same will start happening with QuartzDisplay ? |
I hope not. BootX is not that important, but QuartzDisplay is, I think. But QD is also much smaller, so it might not change.
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Originally posted by bOOzo: I hope not. BootX is not that important, but QuartzDisplay is, I think. But QD is also much smaller, so it might not change. |
I've had no problems using "brushed" on my new dual 1.25 powermac. installed using duality.
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Originally posted by Ratspittle: I've had no problems using "brushed" on my new dual 1.25 powermac. installed using duality. |
Is it Brushed Aqua? Because it does not switch BootX files.
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Originally posted by Angus_D: Themes should not replace executable code, period. |
I agree - venturing into this territory has created a plethora of new problems.
If you replace executable code, you should have safeguards in place to prevent a incompatibility.
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Originally posted by goMac: If you replace executable code, you should have safeguards in place to prevent a incompatibility.
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I generally think that replacing binaries is a bad!!! idea. But if you're going to do it, you'd better be absolutely freakin' bulletproof about the way you make sure that the thing you're replacing is what you expect it to be. Bulletproof.
Bulletproof.
Of course replacing it is bad, however, theme creators are going to do it even if you slap them on the wrist and tell them not to.
Heh, why do theme makers replace BootX? What does it do?
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Originally posted by fireside: Heh, why do theme makers replace BootX? What does it do? |
They do it so that the grey apple logo you see at bootup is themed. Psycho, in my opinion.
I havent checked this thread in a while. I thought it was dead. To answer some questions pertaining to my problem, I had tried three different themes before I knew replacing the BootX file would mess things up. After I learned this, I installed Milk 1.5 with ThemeChanger and unchecked the BootX option. Upon restart I got the question mark mac icon so I had to reinstall again. Over the last 5 or 6 days I've been getting everything in my system up and customized. The one thing missing is the themes. Its encouraging to hear that Ratspittle has installed a theme on the new 1.25s with success. I guess after 4 system rebuilds I'm just not brave enough. Anyone else want to chime in with success stories?
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I've also noted that the email notification seems to be broken. I'm not recieving any notification emails for the threads I'm subscribed to. Hmmm... Weird.
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I've also noted that the email notification seems to be broken. I'm not recieving any notification emails for the threads I'm subscribed to. Hmmm... Weird.
Call me paranoid. Call me a moron... well actually I'd rather if you didn't call me a moron 
I suggest manually changing the Extras.rsrc, because testing every other element on a trial and error basis means you'll go through many reinstalls.
Other option would be to compare all the files you're changing with the originals.

I suggest manually changing the Extras.rsrc, because testing every other element on a trial and error basis means you'll go through many reinstalls.
Other option would be to compare all the files you're changing with the originals.
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Originally posted by fetopher: I havent checked this thread in a while. I thought it was dead. To answer some questions pertaining to my problem, I had tried three different themes before I knew replacing the BootX file would mess things up. After I learned this, I installed Milk 1.5 with ThemeChanger and unchecked the BootX option. Upon restart I got the question mark mac icon so I had to reinstall again. |
Themechanger probably reinstalled an old BootX file from your old Aqua backup when you did that. I bet that's why you got messed up when unchecking BootX.
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Originally posted by goMac: Of course replacing it is bad, however, theme creators are going to do it even if you slap them on the wrist and tell them not to. |
So, assuming mrtew is right, how can I get ThemeChanger to not install the Aqua Fix BootX file? Or, is there no hope for theming on my new machine? 
Thanks all for your help.

Thanks all for your help.
any help?
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Originally posted by fetopher: So, assuming mrtew is right, how can I get ThemeChanger to not install the Aqua Fix BootX file? Or, is there no hope for theming on my new machine? ![]() Thanks all for your help. |
Click the theme you want to use. Then scroll trhough the right column until you see the file "BootX". Then just uncheck it and apply the theme.
Or, if it's one of my themes, get the latest version from the homepage and you will be sure that they don't replace BootX.
Good luck.
What version of Themechanger are you using? Mine doesn't restore Aqua automatically.
I'm using 0.5.