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BORDEAUX, France - Vandals in this southwest Bordeaux torched a replica of the Statue of Liberty and cracked the pedestal of a plaque honoring victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

The crowned head of the 8-foot-tall statue was blackened by fire and its eyes were marked with red paint, apparently to symbolize tears of blood, an official at the mayor's office said.

The statue and the Sept. 11 plaque are beside each other in a square near the city center.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...ews/5486973.htm

How petty.
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Originally posted by Nicko:
LOL what is your point. Slow day for finding material to start a flame war with?


And if it was the US doing it to the Statue of Liberty, you'd be ranting how us American pigs are a disgrace!

Come on Logic, this wasn't meant as a flame. Just posting information.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
And if it was the US doing it to the Statue of Liberty, you'd be ranting how us American pigs are a disgrace!

Come on Logic, this wasn't meant as a flame. Just posting information.


Ach crap, and there I was thinking that you'ld made improvements in the institution you and snotnose live in. I suppose you're going to blame it on the medication again, but when you're back from dribbling on the couch, I think it'd be appropriate to point out to you that Nicko and Logic are in fact two seperate people. I hope this will help you regain a solid footing in reality again. In any case, we're all holding thumbs for you.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:

Come on Logic, this wasn't meant as a flame. Just posting information.
Are you a bit obsessed with Logic?

I can't see that he's posted in this thread. Maybe you meant to write Nicko?
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Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
Derailed before it even got started. It's almost like.... Magic!



no ****.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
How petty.


2 words...

freedom fries

oh - and that was US congress being petty, not some bored French teenagers.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
BORDEAUX, France - Vandals in this southwest Bordeaux torched a replica of the Statue of Liberty and cracked the pedestal of a plaque honoring victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

The crowned head of the 8-foot-tall statue was blackened by fire and its eyes were marked with red paint, apparently to symbolize tears of blood, an official at the mayor's office said.

The statue and the Sept. 11 plaque are beside each other in a square near the city center.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...ews/5486973.htm

How petty.


Yeah that's pretty sad. Of course it could just be a few young punks who were bored and did not know any better.

I am actually surprised the one in Paris has not been vandalized yet. There is a deep discontentment amongst the muslim population in France (~10% of the population, not negligible) regarding this war.

You can be sure this, amongst other things had a influence in the decision to not takepart in the war.
But yeah, that vandalism is pretty sad, albeit not reflecting of 99+% of the French population.

Villa
Not "they". Not "The French" like Zimphire in his inimitable style implied. A couple of young idiots with too much wine in their bellies and nothing better to do.
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Originally posted by voodoo:
Are you a bit obsessed with Logic?

I can't see that he's posted in this thread. Maybe you meant to write Nicko?



Well I better post so he can say I posted in this thread.

OK, Zimph. Have your flamewar. This is going to be my first and hopefully last post in this thread.
Totally off topic - but that's probably a good thing!

Can I ask Logic (and now Zim) what their sig graphics say?
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Originally posted by davesimondotcom:
Totally off topic - but that's probably a good thing!

Can I ask Logic (and now Zim) what their sig graphics say?


"In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Kind."

Bismillah verse
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Originally posted by Logic:
"In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Kind."

Bismillah verse


Yeah, my Arabic is so rusty... I'm not even good at math.

Are you a Muslim?
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Originally posted by davesimondotcom:
Yeah, my Arabic is so rusty... I'm not even good at math.

Are you a Muslim?


Not hardcore, but yes.

Don't drink, don't eat pork etc. Pray sometimes, think of it as meditation. Let's say I'm as much muslim as most are Christians.

I can't read any arabic, so don't worry. You are not the only one
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Originally posted by Logic:
Not hardcore, but yes.

Don't drink, don't eat pork etc. Pray sometimes, think of it as meditation. Let's say I'm as much muslim as most are Christians.

I can't read any arabic, so don't worry. You are not the only one


I don't drink either - but it's more of a weight control issue!

As far as being a "cafeteria Muslim" - at least you have a faith.

I'm not sure what I believe. The past couple of years (since 9/11) I've started to believe there is a higher power, before I didn't. However, I don't really subscribe to any organized religion.

Sometimes I do read the Tao, but I'm not a Buddist. Read the Bible too, but don't think I'm a Christian. Read Malcolm X's autobiography - understand some of the Islamic faith. And I like bagels, but not lox, so I must not be Jewish.
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Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
Derailed before it even got started. It's almost like.... Magic!



Yes, derailed by the Trolls that can't stand any information against their "cause'


Here is to all the trolls that derailed the topic.



It was well deserved.

Now no fighting, there is enough awards to go out to all the trolls.
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
Not "they". Not "The French" like Zimphire in his inimitable style implied. A couple of young idiots with too much wine in their bellies and nothing better to do.


You mean they weren't French?

So it's ok to lump all of the US in the Freedom Fries incident (which was done regularly in here) but not this?

BTW I wasn't trying to say ALL the French was doing this, obviously.

Stop starting strawman arguements Mastrap.
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Originally posted by theolein:
Ach crap, and there I was thinking that you'ld made improvements in the institution you and snotnose live in. I suppose you're going to blame it on the medication again, but when you're back from dribbling on the couch, I think it'd be appropriate to point out to you that Nicko and Logic are in fact two seperate people. I hope this will help you regain a solid footing in reality again. In any case, we're all holding thumbs for you.


When have I ever blamed anything I said on medication?

You want a room next to me and snotnose? Looks as if you need it as well.

What a lame personal attack theolein. I really didn't expect this coming from you.
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Originally posted by simonjames:
the words "titt", "tatt" and "for" come to mind but not necessarily in that order


So two wrongs make a right?

What is funny is, they destroyed the plaque honoring the people that died 9/11

As if any of them had anything to do with this war.


Smart ones indeed.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
You mean they weren't French?

So it's ok to lump all of the US in the Freedom Fries incident (which was done regularly in here) but not this?

BTW I wasn't trying to say ALL the French was doing this, obviously.

Stop starting strawman arguements Mastrap.


So why didn't you say?

"French vandals torch Liberty replica"

See the difference?

Stop posting obvious flamebait, Zimphire.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
You mean they weren't French?

So it's ok to lump all of the US in the Freedom Fries incident (which was done regularly in here) but not this?

BTW I wasn't trying to say ALL the French was doing this, obviously.

Stop starting strawman arguements Mastrap.


You know, what, they might not have been French either. ~10% of the population in France is not French.

And yes there certainly is a difference between a few vandals trying to make a point by attacking a replica of the Statue of Liberty in a smaller southwestern town in France, and the elected, supposedly educated and wise lawmakers on the United States Congress changing the name of French fries to Freedom Fries, because you know what, well thay do not like the French.
The French thingy is a sad intolerant and ignorant act by a few young idiots who represent nobody but themselves, whereas the fries name change is a sad intolerant and ignorant act by a few who represent the people of America...

Zimph, you can not seriously believe everything you write, can you?

Villa
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
So why didn't you say?

"French vandals torch Liberty replica"

See the difference?

Stop posting obvious flamebait, Zimphire.


I believe you are being a bit petty Mastrap. Those people were French. They did the vandalism.
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Originally posted by villalobos:
Zimph, you can not seriously believe everything you write, can you?

Villa


I was about to ask you the same thing.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
I was about to ask you the same thing.


Nice argumentation. I am impressed.

Villa
Go Zimp Go Zimp

Four posts in a row followed by 2 posts - you'll have Ciphers post count beaten by June at this rate

Go Zimp Go Zimp
Heh funny, the people that are complaining about me posting flame bait (which it wasn't) are the ones that usually are doing the baiting.

How ironic.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
I believe you are being a bit petty Mastrap. Those people were French. They did the vandalism.




It's kinda sad that this is "BREAKING NEWS" in Kansas City. I knew the whole "freedom fry" thing would lead to big trouble.
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Originally posted by jckalen:
It's kinda sad that this is "BREAKING NEWS" in Kansas City. I knew the whole "freedom fry" thing would lead to big trouble.


I don't think this is over the Freedom Fry thing. I mean the French wouldn't be THAT petty would they?
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
I don't think this is over the Freedom Fry thing. I mean the French wouldn't be THAT petty would they?


"The French" again? You haven't learnt a thing, have you?

Lemme give you some pointers:

A whole nation isn't responsible for the acts of some idiots, may they be French, Marrocan or otherwise.

Just as nobody is judging all Americans by your posts, just because you're American.

So, while there might be some French people who might indeed be petty, to say "the French wouldn't be THAT petty" is wrong, insulting and, well, petty.
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
"The French" again? You haven't learnt a thing, have you?

Lemme give you some pointers:

A whole nation isn't responsible for the acts of some idiots, may they be French, Marrocan or otherwise.

Just as nobody is judging all Americans by your posts, just because you're American.

So, while there might be some French people who might indeed be petty, to say "the French wouldn't be THAT petty" is wrong, insulting and, well, petty.


Did Germans do it? No, Did Americans do it? No, did people from Italy do it? No. People from France, aka the French did it. You know, those French people over at France.

Now having me said that, I don't think anyone here actually believes I am trying to say, all of France got together and destroyed this statue. If you honestly believed that is what I meant I apologize. I just find it hard, that is what you thought I meant.

Now, if you really didn't think I meant that, then yes, you are being petty.

How many "Americans did something really bad ......" thread have there been, and how many times have you went to said HEY WAIT! Not ALL Americans did this!

If you don't like the way I post. Put me on ignore. That way no one will have to weed through your rantings.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Did Germans do it? No, Did Americans do it? No, did people from Italy do it? No. People from France, aka the French did it. You know, those French people over at France.

Now having me said that, I don't think anyone here actually believes I am trying to say, all of France got together and destroyed this statue. If you honestly believed that is what I meant I apologize. I just find it hard, that is what you thought I meant.



Then why don't you express yourself clearly?

That way all misunderstandings could have been avoided. People from France are not The French.

Get it right.
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
Then why don't you express yourself clearly?

That way all misunderstandings could have been avoided. People from France are not The French.

Get it right.


Heh why are you being so anal rententive Mastrap?

Why don't you rant with other people do this?

You have such a obsession with correcting me?

Really, this is trivial. You are making a big deal out of something trivial.

Again, I will repeat. If you don't like the way I say things. Put me on ignore. Don't flood thread after thread with whiney posts like this one.
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Originally posted by Nicko:
LOL what is your point. Slow day for finding material to start a flame war with?


NUKE THE FRENCH

instead of blame canada, blame FRANCE
hehe..aparently he us is the only country boycotting French goods..... from what im hearing now...every other country protesting the war....Korea, Australia, MidEast, France, Germany, Norway, Brazil,etc,etc,etc,etc.... are starting to boycott American products. Locoal businesses in france are cancelling their contracts with American firms,etc. with McDonalds marketing a product like McArabia (i wonder what nin-come-poop came up with a name like this lol...worst advertising decision ever)., it's not hard to see the symbolism of whats going on. lol

Whatever your position on the issue is, you have to appreciate the fact that the French have the guts to stand up to the Americans. (like the ants standing up to the grasshoppers in Bug's Life). Most other countries would beleive it's political and economic suicide to do so, but they honestly have balls of brass.
There was an article on der Spiegel last night on how some Doctor in Germany is refusing to treat Americans and British patients unless it's an emergency. Everybody's shocked, but the guy says he refuses to treat "war criminals".
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Originally posted by theolein:
There was an article on der Spiegel last night on how some Doctor in Germany is refusing to treat Americans and British patients unless it's an emergency. Everybody's shocked, but the guy says he refuses to treat "war criminals".


So will he refuse any people in Germany that has sold gear to the Iraqis as well?
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
So will he refuse any people in Germany that has sold gear to the Iraqis as well?
Score: -1, Troll
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
So will he refuse any people in Germany that has sold gear to the Iraqis as well?



Last time I looked there was a conspicuous absence of the German army in Iraq. And its not like they're easily overlooked if history is a fair judge
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Originally posted by Mastrap:
Last time I looked there was a conspicuous absence of the German army in Iraq. And its not like they're easily overlooked if history is a fair judge


No but selling stuff of the like to Iraq at this point, is against the UN resolutions is it not? Is it not a crime of war?
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
No but selling stuff of the like to Iraq at this point, is against the UN resolutions is it not? Is it not a crime of war?


Please Post Proof. That the German government is involved in selling arms to Iraq.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
When have I ever blamed anything I said on medication?

You want a room next to me and snotnose? Looks as if you need it as well.

What a lame personal attack theolein. I really didn't expect this coming from you.


please don't put theolein near my room...