French: Ungrateful?

Extremely sad.

Morons.

Oh, and the swastika is the wrong way round.

Hmm...I thought it means something different depending on which way it goes. I remember hearing that...

I dunno.

The Germans had it the wrong way. It is an old sanskrit symbol. Ironically you can actually find it on some ancient Jewish synagogues. Unfortunately because of its association with the Nazis (who, as I mentioned, had it backwards) it has forever been tainted. Sort of like inverted pentagrams which used to be a common Christian symbol until it became associated with Satanism in the late 19th century.


http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~preety/history/swastika.html

Its actually a very common symbol. In its connection to gammadia it was significant in Judaism and especially early Christianity.

The original Sanskrit word/symbol means "good luck." It hasn't completely fallen into disrepute in Asia, where it has retained its that meaning. Of course, there was a minor uproar when a Pokeman trading card with the symbol hit the U.S. The ancient Romans were also fond of it.

It took truly disgusting minds to adopt as their sign a backwards symbol for good luck. I'd say that's a good sign they knew they were evil.

Sorry, yes, I am aware of the history of the swastika.

What I meant to say is that they've got it the wrong way round when trying to imply that Bush and Blair have extreme right wing tendencies.

What I meant to say is that they've got it the wrong way round when trying to imply that Bush and Blair have extreme right wing tendencies.

Not only that but they have terrible penmanship.

Heh...musta ran outta spray paint cuz it's missin a leg.

Its a disgusting thing to do, even if you are against this war and think of Bush and Blair that way you should atleast have respect for the dead!

Even though i dont think the french need to be grateful to the US atleast not more than the US should be to the french.

I think 99% of French people would agree with you there.

"Saddam will win and make your blood run," "Death to Yankees," "Exhume your rubbish, it soils our land." That doesn't represent the average Frenchman's sentiments at all. This is an isolated act of vandalism. It's disgusting, but I wouldn't read too much into it.

I see the spelling of "rosbeefs" has improved...I thought it used to be "rosbifs." And they say our civilization is in decline...

Like Troll pointed out this is not a statement by the people of france but a stupid act by a few fanatic brainless ***holes and you shouldnt judge a country because of an disgusting act by a few fanatics.

I don't speak French* (unpardonable though that is). Could someone explain what the grafitti says about Saddam?


* Or rather, I speak O'Level French. As "Let's Parlez Franglais" once put it: ne persons pas parlez O'Level French.

Eaaassy there, Morpheus, friend, ("Gruss Got") consider your source. Notice I wrote "our" civilization, not "their" civilization. Of course this was the uninspired work of some wackos and only a fool would mistake vandalism for the zeitgeist (such that there is such a thing) of the nation.

FWIW the sentiment I saw in Paris last week more resembled the sentiment I see here in New York, among my colleagues: What Price War?

That sentence gave me the impression you meant their civilisation is in decline and thats why i reacted on it. I guess i misunderstood.

Our civilization: in the West. It wasn't a very good joke anyway.

It is discusting. And I would guess that most people in France would agree that it goes to far.

However, according to this one third of all French surveyed want Saddam to win...

Ah, forgot to translate the bit on the far right:

"Bush, Blair to the War Crimes Tribunal."

That's almost funny! All of these violent, racist comments and then a call for justice before the WCT!

I think France should be bombed after Iraq is finished. The survivors should be put up against the wall and shot. That'll teach them for speaking another language and voting for Clinton.

Anyway, rosbifs is just too funny...

Vive l'ordinateur!

Pathetic indeed.

I'm not sure that article is accurate. I recall seeing the "sondage" and the question posed as I recall was "Do you want the Iraqis to win or the Americans to win." I don't recall Saddam being named. I think the Iraqi people are seen by the French not only as victims (of both their situation and the American soldiers that are killing them) but as underdogs.

I recall seeing the "sondage" and the question posed as I recall was "Do you want the Iraqis to win or the Americans to win." I don't recall Saddam being named.

Sort of like those folks who weren't fans of Hitler or the Nazis but still wanted the Germans to win over France.

Are you trying to impress with your knowledge of history and famous persons? I don't know if you're talking about the Vichy governemnt under Field Marshall Petin or the collaborators, most of whom were tried and executed after the war, with the notable exception of Fran�ois Mitterand.

Comments like this make me wonder why France saved your ass in the American Revolution.... why?

Sadly, most Americans seem to be able to only see one side... theirs.

Umm France saved our Ass's in the Revolution because they wanted to take away from the glory of the british empire, their biggest "enemy" at the time.

Wait a second, that kind of sounds like what they were complaining about the US doing in the Middle east, or even worse, working for, "regime change"

The US on the other hand saved their ass's during WWII to save them from the brutal occupation by an invading country that was recognized by most the world as evil, and was intent on exterminaiting the jewish race and ruling all of europe.

And yes I thank the french for heliping us during the revolution 200 years, ago, but WWII is still fresh enough in the sands of American and French history, that it takes on more relevance to our current diplomatic situation then events 2 centuries ago.

Appears as normal when driving on the left.
Ambidexterous interpretation welcome

So that means France should always do what America demands of them? Is that why you helped them to maintain a free democratic country, so you can take that freedom away from them yourself?

Friendship between countries is the same as the friendship between friends. Do you always expect blind loyalty from your friends even though they think its completely wrong what you are doing? Dont you expect from them to stop you if they think you make a terrible mistake? I rather have friends that dont kiss my **s all the time but have their own opinion and i give them every right to speak for themself and to tell me honestly without fear of losing my friendship their opinion. Friends should have the right to have another opinion and to act accordingly. Friends that only do as you say are not real friends! Thats my opinion!