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Yes, Tony, There is a Conspiracy
Here's the prewar zeitgeist in a nutshell: In a widely reported January 16 speech, Tony Blair proclaimed that the impending invasion of Iraq "has nothing to do with oil, or any of the other conspiracy theories put forward."
One week later, Sen. Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, quietly passed word to Russia and France that their countries will be frozen out of staggeringly lucrative postwar oil contracts unless they roll over and endorse the US attack.
Yes, Tony, there is a conspiracy, in the dictionary sense of the term: an agreement among people to perform a criminal or wrongful act. It consists, not of a tiny cabal, but of the whole of the American power elite, from politicians to business executives to journalists. It has everything to do with oil. But it is not secret.
The conspirators know they can count on the uncritical support of the mass media. Therefore knowledge of their cynical motives and thuggish tactics can be made available in journals and other specialized fora, all but invisible to most Americans but accessible to the few with sufficient time and inclination to dig beneath the headlines.
Building on that knowledge, a Mumbai-based independent think tank has now anatomized the conspiracy behind the coming war and issued a truly comprehensive explanation of the current global crisis.
Behind the Invasion of Iraq, the startling new book-length report authored by the Research Unit for Political Economy (RUPE), synthesizes the seemingly disparate threads of the US war drive in what amounts to a blistering indictment of American foreign policy. The report (available on the Web at http://www.rupe-india.org) is lavishly documented and jargon-free; the effect, especially for readers with limited understanding of global commerce and finance, is of puzzle pieces clicking decisively into place.
The RUPE report wholly confirms the widely-held view of the coming war as a massive oil grab, "on a scale not witnessed since the days of colonialism." Further, the current debate about arms inspections and alleged links to al-Qaeda is revealed as pure political theater, since the decision to invade Iraq was made months ago.
But seizure of Iraq's multi-trillion-dollar petroleum reserves is only the immediate goal, the report shows. RUPE's rigorous analysis of publicly available sources -- including official documents, think-tank papers, and press reports -- reveals that the US intends to use the invasion of Iraq as a launching pad for a drastic reshaping of the Middle East, to be followed by an unprecedented expansion of US power worldwide. The strategic trend of US foreign policy now points unmistakably towards global empire.
To be sure, an imperial project on so ambitious a scale entails big downside risks for the US, including staggering costs, military hazards, and the disruption of global "stability" (i.e., the dearly-bought loyalty of US allies and client states.) But the American Establishment seems prepared to go for broke, and its enthusiastic consensus behind a naked war of conquest cannot be explained solely by the "cowboy mentality" that some detect in the White House.
What's really at stake -- and this will come as no surprise to leftists -- is US control of global markets. The report reveals that the US economy is now facing a nightmare scenario: A crisis of overproduction has crippled US GDP, resulting in monstrous trade and budget deficits, even as a potentially disastrous deflationary spiral appears to be under way worldwide.
Meanwhile, superpower rivals Europe, Russia and China are mounting a vigorous challenge to US economic preeminence, which is further threatened by the euro's emergence as a credible alternative to the dollar as global reserve currency. (All this is exhaustively detailed in the RUPE report, which draws its most telling evidence from the mainstream financial press.)
In this context, the US sees confiscation of the world's richest oil-producing regions as a magic bullet. While securing its own access to petroleum supplies for the foreseeable future, it can simultaneously defend dollar hegemony and restructure Middle East markets for the exclusive benefit of US-based corporations.
Which brings us to the crux: Direct American control of oil would render any potential challengers for world or regional supremacy perpetually dependent on US forbearance. In RUPE's words, "once it has seized the oil wells of west Asia the US will determine not only which firms would bag the deals, not only the currency in which oil trade would be denominated, not
only the price of oil on the international market, but even the destination of the oil."
RUPE's argument here is powerful but complex, and this summary is necessarily an extreme oversimplification. But the overall thrust is quite clear: The US invasion of Iraq needs to be understood not as an end in itself but as the means to an end -- the foundation of a New American Empire.
Needless to say, you won't catch Tony Blair owning up to the war's real purpose as he flogs it to a skeptical public. But the truth, or something pretty close to it, is now readily available to anyone who cares to look.
Jacob Levich, a writer and editor based in Queens, N.Y., assisted RUPE in researching Behind The Invasion of Iraq -- which is a fancy way of saying he forwarded several hundred articles to an email address in Mumbai. He can be reached at: jlevich@earthlink.net
Jacob Levich
The full report can be found at http://www.rupe-india.org/34/contents.html
One week later, Sen. Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, quietly passed word to Russia and France that their countries will be frozen out of staggeringly lucrative postwar oil contracts unless they roll over and endorse the US attack.
Yes, Tony, there is a conspiracy, in the dictionary sense of the term: an agreement among people to perform a criminal or wrongful act. It consists, not of a tiny cabal, but of the whole of the American power elite, from politicians to business executives to journalists. It has everything to do with oil. But it is not secret.
The conspirators know they can count on the uncritical support of the mass media. Therefore knowledge of their cynical motives and thuggish tactics can be made available in journals and other specialized fora, all but invisible to most Americans but accessible to the few with sufficient time and inclination to dig beneath the headlines.
Building on that knowledge, a Mumbai-based independent think tank has now anatomized the conspiracy behind the coming war and issued a truly comprehensive explanation of the current global crisis.
Behind the Invasion of Iraq, the startling new book-length report authored by the Research Unit for Political Economy (RUPE), synthesizes the seemingly disparate threads of the US war drive in what amounts to a blistering indictment of American foreign policy. The report (available on the Web at http://www.rupe-india.org) is lavishly documented and jargon-free; the effect, especially for readers with limited understanding of global commerce and finance, is of puzzle pieces clicking decisively into place.
The RUPE report wholly confirms the widely-held view of the coming war as a massive oil grab, "on a scale not witnessed since the days of colonialism." Further, the current debate about arms inspections and alleged links to al-Qaeda is revealed as pure political theater, since the decision to invade Iraq was made months ago.
But seizure of Iraq's multi-trillion-dollar petroleum reserves is only the immediate goal, the report shows. RUPE's rigorous analysis of publicly available sources -- including official documents, think-tank papers, and press reports -- reveals that the US intends to use the invasion of Iraq as a launching pad for a drastic reshaping of the Middle East, to be followed by an unprecedented expansion of US power worldwide. The strategic trend of US foreign policy now points unmistakably towards global empire.
To be sure, an imperial project on so ambitious a scale entails big downside risks for the US, including staggering costs, military hazards, and the disruption of global "stability" (i.e., the dearly-bought loyalty of US allies and client states.) But the American Establishment seems prepared to go for broke, and its enthusiastic consensus behind a naked war of conquest cannot be explained solely by the "cowboy mentality" that some detect in the White House.
What's really at stake -- and this will come as no surprise to leftists -- is US control of global markets. The report reveals that the US economy is now facing a nightmare scenario: A crisis of overproduction has crippled US GDP, resulting in monstrous trade and budget deficits, even as a potentially disastrous deflationary spiral appears to be under way worldwide.
Meanwhile, superpower rivals Europe, Russia and China are mounting a vigorous challenge to US economic preeminence, which is further threatened by the euro's emergence as a credible alternative to the dollar as global reserve currency. (All this is exhaustively detailed in the RUPE report, which draws its most telling evidence from the mainstream financial press.)
In this context, the US sees confiscation of the world's richest oil-producing regions as a magic bullet. While securing its own access to petroleum supplies for the foreseeable future, it can simultaneously defend dollar hegemony and restructure Middle East markets for the exclusive benefit of US-based corporations.
Which brings us to the crux: Direct American control of oil would render any potential challengers for world or regional supremacy perpetually dependent on US forbearance. In RUPE's words, "once it has seized the oil wells of west Asia the US will determine not only which firms would bag the deals, not only the currency in which oil trade would be denominated, not
only the price of oil on the international market, but even the destination of the oil."
RUPE's argument here is powerful but complex, and this summary is necessarily an extreme oversimplification. But the overall thrust is quite clear: The US invasion of Iraq needs to be understood not as an end in itself but as the means to an end -- the foundation of a New American Empire.
Needless to say, you won't catch Tony Blair owning up to the war's real purpose as he flogs it to a skeptical public. But the truth, or something pretty close to it, is now readily available to anyone who cares to look.
Jacob Levich, a writer and editor based in Queens, N.Y., assisted RUPE in researching Behind The Invasion of Iraq -- which is a fancy way of saying he forwarded several hundred articles to an email address in Mumbai. He can be reached at: jlevich@earthlink.net
Jacob Levich
The full report can be found at http://www.rupe-india.org/34/contents.html
Brilliant. Thanks for the link, looks like an interesting read.
Hmm.. why didn't we just take the oil in the early 90s when we could have?
Why don't we just take all the oil?
Here is another cool conspiracy theory for you kvm. You'll LOVE this one

OOOooOOoooooO
The US Government IS EVIL!!!!
Why don't we just take all the oil?
Here is another cool conspiracy theory for you kvm. You'll LOVE this one

OOOooOOoooooO
The US Government IS EVIL!!!!
Where the tin foil when you need it? Damn.
I know! I guess I can buy a couple new 12" powerbooks and tape them to my head to stop them from reading my mind
I know! I guess I can buy a couple new 12" powerbooks and tape them to my head to stop them from reading my mind
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Originally posted by Zimphire: Hmm.. why didn't we just take the oil in the early 90s when we could have? Why don't we just take all the oil? Here is another cool conspiracy theory for you kvm. You'll LOVE this one ![]() OOOooOOoooooO The US Government IS EVIL!!!! |
I don't think that those orange lines are really there,
I think that you drew them on.
Good job you're not a journalist or you could get fired.
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Originally posted by christ: I don't think that those orange lines are really there, I think that you drew them on. Good job you're not a journalist or you could get fired. |
Of course those lines aren't there. But those lines are traced over the streets in DC. The streets do form those lines.
Those Masons were sneaky.

There is also a masonic symbol further down.
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Originally posted by Zimphire: ...There is also a masonic symbol further down. |
Isn't that the White House?
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Originally posted by Zimphire: Of course those lines aren't there. But those lines are traced over the streets in DC. The streets do form those lines. Those Masons were sneaky. ![]() There is also a masonic symbol further down. |
And French, too!
Oooh, that evil Pierre!
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Originally posted by SimeyTheLimey: And French, too! Oooh, that evil Pierre! |
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Originally posted by BkueKanoodle: Where the tin foil when you need it? Damn. I know! I guess I can buy a couple new 12" powerbooks and tape them to my head to stop them from reading my mind |
Do dislexics confuse the aliens? What about Alsheimer patients? Are they indavertantly giving away secrets because they can't rememebr to keep them secret? Can you train yourself to be dislexic to throw off the aliens?
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Originally posted by boots: Do dislexics confuse the aliens? What about Alsheimer patients? Are they indavertantly giving away secrets because they can't rememebr to keep them secret? Can you train yourself to be dislexic to throw off the aliens? |
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Originally posted by Zimphire: Of course those lines aren't there. But those lines are traced over the streets in DC. The streets do form those lines. Those Masons were sneaky. ![]() There is also a masonic symbol further down. |
Pyramids with eyes in them yes, but not that. Ach, but trying to be funny is hard innit?
Oh, and looking at higher res aerial photos of that pentagram thingie shows that the streets are not aligned into a complete pentagram. Damn Masons! Can't they do anything right??!
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Originally posted by voodoo: ...Pyramids with eyes in them ... |
I thought that was the Illuminati.
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Originally posted by christ: I thought that was the Illuminati. |

Note the freemason logo.
See how it forms a pyramid
Then there is the eye in the pyramid. This are all freemason logos and things.

Their main logo (as seen smaller on the first photo) forms a pyramid within.
Typical freemason symbolism.
Remember that the Freemasons are a part of the Illuminati
Long live the League of Dynamic Discord!
Which country gets the "Iraq treatment" next? Iran or Syria? And how many years? My guess is Syria within 5 years.
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Originally posted by simonjames: Which country gets the "Iraq treatment" next? Iran or Syria? And how many years? My guess is Syria within 5 years. |
Damn - did this thread go back to the war again - I thought it was about freemasonry!
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Originally posted by malvolio: Long live the League of Dynamic Discord! |
I was wondering when you'd comment on this mal
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Originally posted by christ: Damn - did this thread go back to the war again - I thought it was about freemasonry! |

To quote nonhuman:
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Hey, anyone ever notice the "piracy" in "conspiracy"? |

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Originally posted by simonjames: Which country gets the "Iraq treatment" next? Iran or Syria? And how many years? My guess is Syria within 5 years. |
You might be right. My guess is that some 'destabilization campaign' will start soon, and Iran is more likely to suffer from it being more democratic. Destabilizing Syria would be much more difficult.
PREDICTION:
It has to be Syria and it has to be before the election.
Bush needs to pick a fight with someone where he can look at least somewhat victorious by election time or else the economy will hobble his reelection as it tanks.
Iran is too hard a wall to break down, and too vast. He'll have learned his lesson from Iraq and try to make a more compact, easier to route nation next on his list of conquests.
Additionally, Syria borders on Israel.
After reelection (who would vote a president during continuing war?), Syria will be rubble and the next to go will be Iran, caught in a squeeze play between iraq and afghanistan.
then, Saudi Arabia will rise up and attack us while we're spread out, and then Bush will order the nukes. Since he wants the oil, he'll use neutron bombs in the air or chemical or biological agents, probably a biological virus that is ethnically targeted by identifying genome.
Then, after that, the rest of world, notably china and russia, will consider us too much of a threat to the species to survive, and they'll unleash all their nukes on us at once in a barrage attack.
We'll get some of ours off, too, but not enough.
The Fiji Islanders will then remerge a century later as the only surviving humans, only to brutally slaughtered by cockroachius sapien, as they exert their new dominancs over the earth.
or....not.
It has to be Syria and it has to be before the election.
Bush needs to pick a fight with someone where he can look at least somewhat victorious by election time or else the economy will hobble his reelection as it tanks.
Iran is too hard a wall to break down, and too vast. He'll have learned his lesson from Iraq and try to make a more compact, easier to route nation next on his list of conquests.
Additionally, Syria borders on Israel.
After reelection (who would vote a president during continuing war?), Syria will be rubble and the next to go will be Iran, caught in a squeeze play between iraq and afghanistan.
then, Saudi Arabia will rise up and attack us while we're spread out, and then Bush will order the nukes. Since he wants the oil, he'll use neutron bombs in the air or chemical or biological agents, probably a biological virus that is ethnically targeted by identifying genome.
Then, after that, the rest of world, notably china and russia, will consider us too much of a threat to the species to survive, and they'll unleash all their nukes on us at once in a barrage attack.
We'll get some of ours off, too, but not enough.
The Fiji Islanders will then remerge a century later as the only surviving humans, only to brutally slaughtered by cockroachius sapien, as they exert their new dominancs over the earth.
or....not.
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Originally posted by Lerkfish: PREDICTION: It has to be Syria and it has to be before the election. |
It has to be somewhere that begins with 'C'.
First - 'A' is for 'Afghanistan'.
Then - 'B' is for 'Baghdad'
Next - 'C' is for 'Cuba'? 'China'? 'California'?
It's going to be a while before you get to 'I' is for 'Iran' or 'S' is for 'Syria'.
That is what happens when you have war with logic according to Dr Seuss.
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Originally posted by Lerkfish: The Fiji Islanders will then remerge a century later as the only surviving humans, only to brutally slaughtered by cockroachius sapien, as they exert their new dominancs over the earth. |
seriously though... just the mention of neutron bombs makes that a very grim prediction or a cruel joke.
It started out pretty flat in the beginning, Lerkfish, but then it cought flight and ended with a real twist 
****1/2 Reykjav�k Daily Puffin

****1/2 Reykjav�k Daily Puffin
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Originally posted by christ: It has to be somewhere that begins with 'C'. First - 'A' is for 'Afghanistan'. Then - 'B' is for 'Baghdad' Next - 'C' is for 'Cuba'? 'China'? 'California'? It's going to be a while before you get to 'I' is for 'Iran' or 'S' is for 'Syria'. That is what happens when you have war with logic according to Dr Seuss. |
soooooo next on the list is ... Germany?
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Originally posted by voodoo: Maybe Bush is doing the Greek alphabet: alpha, beta, gamma, delta,... soooooo next on the list is ... Germany?
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could be the jewish alphabet, which, I admit, I have no idea how that progresses.
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Originally posted by Earth Mk. II: seriously though... just the mention of neutron bombs makes that a very grim prediction or a cruel joke. |
why can't it be both?
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Originally posted by christ: It has to be somewhere that begins with 'C'. First - 'A' is for 'Afghanistan'. Then - 'B' is for 'Baghdad' Next - 'C' is for 'Cuba'? 'China'? 'California'? It's going to be a while before you get to 'I' is for 'Iran' or 'S' is for 'Syria'. That is what happens when you have war with logic according to Dr Seuss. |
Phew! I guess we Kanuckistanis can breathe easy for a while longer
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Originally posted by Lerkfish: could be the jewish alphabet, which, I admit, I have no idea how that progresses. |
Arbaic is (according too tha net): Alif, Baa, Taa, Thaa,...
Another dead end. :/
Russian perhaps? It goes: a, b, v, g,... but Bush wouldn't use cyrillic.. no.
I think he must be using the runic (ancient nordic) alphabet. It starts with: F, U, TH, A, R, K,... Draw your own conclusions people!!