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My Open GL modelling program :D
well ive finally finished an alpha version of my cocoa-opengl program to help with my game development, and to test it off, i made this rather simple model of a Nintendo GameCube. check out the picture(compiled using screenshots). 
check it out....
(200KB approx.)
i'll be making a model of the xBox, PS2(if i can find pics of it from every angle) and hopefully an iMac.
what do you guys think ?
check it out....
(200KB approx.)i'll be making a model of the xBox, PS2(if i can find pics of it from every angle) and hopefully an iMac.
what do you guys think ?
That's really great work, the more so since you wrote the modeler that made it. that's really impressive indeed. i'm a bit of a modeling nerd myself, although i actually favor a CAD tool to do it, just because that's what i'm best at. but i've long wanted to get into creating a toolset to use, too. it's great to know that it can be done. Very cool! 
thanks guys, really encouraging 
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im looking for pics of the xBox and PS2 from all angles. Using google image search, but cant find them. but ill keep looking.
here's an xBox without the actual sides and bottom. bt it still looks ok.
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here's a mushroom i made long before the alpha version was complete.
(76KB approx.)
Cheers
.im looking for pics of the xBox and PS2 from all angles. Using google image search, but cant find them. but ill keep looking.
here's an xBox without the actual sides and bottom. bt it still looks ok.
(144KB approx.)here's a mushroom i made long before the alpha version was complete.
(76KB approx.)Cheers
okay..
so do you know all the math behind this stuff, like all the linear algebra?
Basically what I am getting at, is can this be done with out taking a whole bunch of computer graphics courses.
(I have the math knowledge though)
cus, I am interested in playing around with OpenGl.. is it difficult? what books did you use?
so do you know all the math behind this stuff, like all the linear algebra?
Basically what I am getting at, is can this be done with out taking a whole bunch of computer graphics courses.
(I have the math knowledge though)
cus, I am interested in playing around with OpenGl.. is it difficult? what books did you use?
well yeah.... personally i know almost nothing there is to know about using 3D packages, like Maya, Strata, etc. i have althought used strata and Maya PLE (which got me interested since i coldnt really afford them ).
And yes, it is my program....all math...trig n linear algebra,etc. (preety ugly if you ask me, but the result seems to be preety close to what i wanted).
I was a CS major with an elective in OpenGL...so i did have some formal training in it. i also attended WWDC2001 and got started on Cocoa and OpenGL on OSX..... there's a weath of info online for both opengl and cocoa.
if you want to get started with opengl.... i highly recommend the must haves 'red book' and 'blue book'...they are the bibles. (red book available online for free... http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~unreal/theredbook/ (read it from cover to cover, it's the foundation to 3D modelling and basic opengl))
for cocoa..... look at the documentation online and the O'Reiley books to get you started. youre gonna have to fool around with this a lot before you realize it's potential. it's a process and i havent reached the destination...as soon as i get there...there's something you will be able to add/change/optomize/improve with the functionality you discover when you start using it. (by the way it's taken my about a year to get it to this point, but the foundation has been laid.)
Next step..... skeletal animation and inverse kineamatics(gawd only knows what that mean...but it sure sounds good )
).And yes, it is my program....all math...trig n linear algebra,etc. (preety ugly if you ask me, but the result seems to be preety close to what i wanted).
I was a CS major with an elective in OpenGL
...so i did have some formal training in it. i also attended WWDC2001 and got started on Cocoa and OpenGL on OSX..... there's a weath of info online for both opengl and cocoa.if you want to get started with opengl.... i highly recommend the must haves 'red book' and 'blue book'...they are the bibles. (red book available online for free... http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~unreal/theredbook/ (read it from cover to cover, it's the foundation to 3D modelling and basic opengl))
for cocoa..... look at the documentation online and the O'Reiley books to get you started. youre gonna have to fool around with this a lot before you realize it's potential. it's a process and i havent reached the destination
...as soon as i get there...there's something you will be able to add/change/optomize/improve with the functionality you discover when you start using it. (by the way it's taken my about a year to get it to this point, but the foundation has been laid.)Next step..... skeletal animation and inverse kineamatics(gawd only knows what that mean...but it sure sounds good
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Originally posted by Hawkeye_a: thanks guys, really encouraging .im looking for pics of the xBox and PS2 from all angles. Using google image search, but cant find them. but ill keep looking. |
What sort of PS2 pics do you want? I have a PS2, a good digital camera, and I can free up some time. Post some specs or an example of the photography style and I may be able to help
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Originally posted by The Godfather: It works well, but what is the interface like? |
Not very impressive. i havent spent too much time in interface design yet. i just wanted to get the functionality i needed into the thing. But luckily given the flexibility of cocoa, it's preety easy to rearrange, etc. here's a pic...
(72KB approx.)(i'll be the first to admit...the interface could be a heck of a lot better
Also, mediaman. thanks dude
.... ill need pics of each 'side' or 'face' of the PS2. (total 6) preferably on a single colored background (just makes the photoshop work a lot easier )i think a size of 512X512 should be more than sufficient (for each side).
Thanks.
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Originally posted by Hawkeye_a: Not very impressive. i havent spent too much time in interface design yet. i just wanted to get the functionality i needed into the thing. But luckily given the flexibility of cocoa, it's preety easy to rearrange, etc. here's a pic... (72KB approx.)(i'll be the first to admit...the interface could be a heck of a lot better Also, mediaman. thanks dude .... ill need pics of each 'side' or 'face' of the PS2. (total 6) preferably on a single colored background (just makes the photoshop work a lot easier )i think a size of 512X512 should be more than sufficient (for each side). Thanks. |
Use brushed metal and a single window multi-paned interface with collapsing and expanding sub-sections and you'll have a winner soon enough. Call it iSomething and sell it to Apple hehe
iSomething ? how about 'iAnything' ? really? ..... yeah i was pondering making it a single windowed app w/ brushed metal, but at the same time ,i was hoping to convert it into a multi-document app. As far as the multi-pane goes...thats almost a sure thing.... just considering my options.
PinkOx, here'a an iMac... the model is fine, but it's bloody hard to find texture or descent pictures of it, so i ended up drawing most of it in PS7.
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Cheers.
..... yeah i was pondering making it a single windowed app w/ brushed metal, but at the same time ,i was hoping to convert it into a multi-document app. As far as the multi-pane goes...thats almost a sure thing.... just considering my options.PinkOx, here'a an iMac... the model is fine, but it's bloody hard to find texture or descent pictures of it, so i ended up drawing most of it in PS7.
(200KB approx.)Cheers.
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Originally posted by Hawkeye_a: PinkOx, here'a an iMac... the model is fine, but it's bloody hard to find texture or descent pictures of it, so i ended up drawing most of it in PS7. |
here ya go
Did some photos this evening. Unfortunately they where too dark (and a bit blurry, no tripod, see) or they had a huge flash over most of the PS2, so they where useless. Will try again tomorrow during the daytime.
How about doing the PSX. Sonys new PS2/DVD player recorder/PVR home entertainment thing.
Good pics are available here
How about doing the PSX. Sonys new PS2/DVD player recorder/PVR home entertainment thing.
Good pics are available here
Demonhood, i did look there . but i need pictures of it from all sides. that just gave me the 'front'. as u notice in my model there arent any ports of the back, and the back of the iMac screen dosenth ave a log on the back.
but yeah.... mediaman, that PSX looks preety cool. ill make a model of it a little later.
. but i need pictures of it from all sides. that just gave me the 'front'. as u notice in my model there arent any ports of the back, and the back of the iMac screen dosenth ave a log on the back.but yeah.... mediaman, that PSX looks preety cool. ill make a model of it a little later.
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Originally posted by LegendaryPinkOx: Lovely iMac Do you have any way of implamenting the shiney (chrome) reflective textures yet, or have you already? Just wondering. I envy your application-creating abilities. 
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good observation dude. i am just completing the implementation for material properties, that will take care of shininess, ambient, specular , diffuse properties
cheers.
The Sony PSX...
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the movie to go along with it....
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/.Movies/psx.mp4 (3.6MB approx)
You like ?
Cheers.
(200KB approx.)the movie to go along with it....
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/.Movies/psx.mp4 (3.6MB approx)
You like ?
Cheers.
Managed to get these before the battery went flat this morning 
Flat Side
Back
But I have found some other fairly high res shots
Front
top
angled
DVD draw out
Also this image of the warning that is on the underside on the 'non stepped' end (this is the only detail on the underside)
Flat Side
Back
But I have found some other fairly high res shots
Front
top
angled
DVD draw out
Also this image of the warning that is on the underside on the 'non stepped' end (this is the only detail on the underside)
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Originally posted by Mediaman_12: Managed to get these before the battery went flat this morning Flat Side Back But I have found some other fairly high res shots Front top angled DVD draw out Also this image of the warning that is on the underside on the 'non stepped' end (this is the only detail on the underside) |
mediaman, great pics. missing a couple of sides though.... i got the ones above. but ill need one ot the 'non-flat' side and one of the bottom(well a more complete one anyway. also the background looks fine.
Cheers dude.
Well,here it is !! enjoy. hope you like it.
(200KB approx.)
PowerBook867>learning curve ? i wish i know...so far im the only person whos used it. . i havent really worked on the interface much, so im guessing it's preety hard.
wataru>it's taken me about a year to get to this stage. it's been dynamically designed, implemented and tested. so i just keep improving it.
ambush> As far as speed goes, im going to try and concentrate all optomization efforts on OpenGL for now. i havent written a C++ program in OSX yet, so i couldnt compare.
Cheers ppl, and thanks for the encouragment.
enjoy. hope you like it.
(200KB approx.)PowerBook867>learning curve ?
i wish i know...so far im the only person whos used it. . i havent really worked on the interface much, so im guessing it's preety hard.wataru>it's taken me about a year to get to this stage. it's been dynamically designed, implemented and tested. so i just keep improving it.
ambush> As far as speed goes, im going to try and concentrate all optomization efforts on OpenGL for now. i havent written a C++ program in OSX yet, so i couldnt compare
.Cheers ppl, and thanks for the encouragment.
Just resurrecting this thread to give you guys a little update.
made a lot of changes since i posted those earlier models.
-changed interface treamondously..... it's now...for all intensive purposed... a 1-window-app. did that by encorporating tabs and sheets
-lots of bugs fixed
-encorportaed NSOpenGLcontext (which is good )
and here's a model i made in 30-45 minutes. 30 minutes were spent in creating the texture in photoshop
Apple iPod mini
-i still have to implement the the save and open feature though.... and a heck of a lot of other stuff.
Cheers.
made a lot of changes since i posted those earlier models.
-changed interface treamondously..... it's now...for all intensive purposed... a 1-window-app. did that by encorporating tabs and sheets
-lots of bugs fixed
-encorportaed NSOpenGLcontext (which is good
)and here's a model i made in 30-45 minutes. 30 minutes were spent in creating the texture in photoshop
Apple iPod mini
-i still have to implement the the save and open feature though.... and a heck of a lot of other stuff.
Cheers.
Hawkeye_a:
Bloody hell! That truly is amazing. Making the model itself with anything is impressive, but the program behind it (especially as one person and not part of a team), to me, is absolutely fantastic!!
Well done!
(p.s. have I sucked up enough to warrant a free copy when you ship it?
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Bloody hell! That truly is amazing. Making the model itself with anything is impressive, but the program behind it (especially as one person and not part of a team), to me, is absolutely fantastic!!
Well done!
(p.s. have I sucked up enough to warrant a free copy when you ship it?
)This program of yours inspired me to learn the foundations of OpenGL over my semester break. I ran across some great tutorials at NeHe.
It's a lot easier than I thought it might be. But, I have only done the basics.. spinning cubes, simple scenes, hmm and enough to make a sprite based 2-D game.
So, thanks for the inspiration.
It's a lot easier than I thought it might be. But, I have only done the basics.. spinning cubes, simple scenes, hmm and enough to make a sprite based 2-D game.
So, thanks for the inspiration.
Black book:
keep sucking(just had to say it )..... ill keep u posted on the status. it will probably be a free program , but im just ironing out the creases. thanks.
Binary:
yup...NeHe is where i found the info i needed i nthe begining as well. it's an awesome site. congrats on the game. u be entering uDevGames/idevGames competition ? some screens would be great. i havent gotten to collision detection and sound yet.
heres a video of the iPod mini model:
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/.Movies/iPodmini.mp4 (2.9MB approx.)
keep sucking
(just had to say it )..... ill keep u posted on the status. it will probably be a free program , but im just ironing out the creases. thanks.Binary:
yup...NeHe is where i found the info i needed i nthe begining as well. it's an awesome site. congrats on the game. u be entering uDevGames/idevGames competition ? some screens would be great
. i havent gotten to collision detection and sound yet.heres a video of the iPod mini model:
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/.Movies/iPodmini.mp4 (2.9MB approx.)
The progress in the past couple of weeks has been great. nearly beta
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/Programming/
also....check out these 'floating' object. would you like any/all of these on your desktop ?
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/.Movies/cube.mp4
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/.Movies/mini.mp4
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/Programming/
also....check out these 'floating' object. would you like any/all of these on your desktop ?
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/.Movies/cube.mp4
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/.Movies/mini.mp4
That's awesome, dude. I want totally unnecessary 3-D objects on my desktop, please. I always envisioned something like Konfabulator, but which utilized OpenGL and 3-D floating models like that as controllers�or the "widgets." Someone needs to make this, and make it easily mod-able. Is that a "3-D view" type in your application? Really impressive. I want to fiddle with it now.
I always envisioned something like Konfabulator, but which utilized OpenGL and 3-D floating models like that as controllers�or the "widgets." Someone needs to make this, and make it easily mod-able. Is that a "3-D view" type in your application? Really impressive. I want to fiddle with it now. I'm working on it , im working on it. lol
I was flabberghasted when i saw them doing it on 10.2 @WWDC2002. so i descided to start writing this app to make models. but the floating models is just a quick application of the models....im planning on using it to make some games n stuff.
Cheers.
I was flabberghasted when i saw them doing it on 10.2 @WWDC2002. so i descided to start writing this app to make models. but the floating models is just a quick application of the models....im planning on using it to make some games n stuff.
Cheers.
Added a couple of models to the gallery. The 2 at the bottom are new onew, let me know what you guys think. i havent been working on it as much as i should, cause ive been busy lately.
Hope you like em.
Cheers
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/Programming/
Hope you like em.
Cheers
http://homepage.mac.com/hawkeye_a/Programming/