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I knew it.

So. Is it going to announced in Septemeber or announced earlier but available in September?
Bummer that they'll miss the back-to-school market.

I wonder if the new low-power G5 is the thing that delayed the new iMac's announcement? Is the iMac G5 coming?
"all-new"



It *has* to be a G5 machine. If it was just gonna be a G4 speed bump it would have happened already.

Time to start a little budgeting for my new Mac. Come Sept there will be a purchase--iMac, eMac or PowerMac depending on price/performance of the new iMac.

Been waiting a long time for this. I haven't had a Mac since I sold my PowerMac 6100 w/ DOS card like 10 years ago. When OS X came out I was re-converted but held off buying for various reasons.

The day has finally come (well, coming in septembe that is)
Um, wtf? Can anyone say h@><0r3d?

EDIT: Guess not, Maccentral says it was confirmed. So I'll repeat: Um, wtf? They'll go two months without a product to sell? I'm assuming several heads will roll for that one.
Wow, I am impressed they admitted it.
Whoa! That's a lot of posts for someone who hasn't owned a Mac in 10 years!

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Originally posted by thunderous_funker:
"all-new"



It *has* to be a G5 machine. If it was just gonna be a G4 speed bump it would have happened already.

Time to start a little budgeting for my new Mac. Come Sept there will be a purchase--iMac, eMac or PowerMac depending on price/performance of the new iMac.

Been waiting a long time for this. I haven't had a Mac since I sold my PowerMac 6100 w/ DOS card like 10 years ago. When OS X came out I was re-converted but held off buying for various reasons.

The day has finally come (well, coming in septembe that is)
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Originally posted by TheJoshu:
Whoa! That's a lot of posts for someone who hasn't owned a Mac in 10 years!


I started on this forum (different user name) way back in the alt.comp.mac.advocacy days and made a lot of friends so I stuck around. Most of my posts are in the Lounge or Political Lounge but I've always been a Mac Head at heart even if I don't currently own one.
I am in awe.

I was checking the url - clicking around thinking "this a fake right?"

Selling my 17 inch 800 immediately.
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Originally posted by boardsurfer:
I am in awe.

I was checking the url - clicking around thinking "this a fake right?"

Selling my 17 inch 800 immediately.


What are you going to do for 3 months then?
Seems a bit odd telling people not to buy their current iMac lineup. you'd think they'd just keep selling them, getting a little bit of profit, then just releasing the new ones. Wonder if they'd do this for all their Macs?

Apple store: " We're currently not taking any orders on our Powerbooks due to a transition to our new super-duper G5 one. We anticipate it will be available by 2006".
Heh. If you go to the UK store all iMacs are currently listed as costing �-1.18

Mmmm, new iMac goodness on the way!
Yeah, they'll probably waited until July so they could say, it will be only two months till its released, even though it probably won't actually ship(one machine) until the last day of September.

Glad I don't own any Apple stock, you know how bad this is going to f*ck up their current quarter? I'm sure when they release their latest quarterly results, they'll warn they won't meet expectations and their stock will drop quite a bit.
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Originally posted by sanity assassin:
Seems a bit odd telling people not to buy their current iMac lineup. you'd think they'd just keep selling them, getting a little bit of profit, then just releasing the new ones. Wonder if they'd do this for all their Macs?

Apple store: " We're currently not taking any orders on our Powerbooks due to a transition to our new super-duper G5 one. We anticipate it will be available by 2006".


Just means that they stopped building units a while back based on the calculation that current inventory would hold until the new iMac was announced.

The question is whether the calculation was wrong or if something happened that delayed the iMac debut.

I tend to think some Logistics expert got fired rather than they suddenly realized the product had a flaw or something. I bet the Logistics guy simply forgot to carry a one or something.
Pretty bad timing though. Something is amiss I think. Mind you, it's nice to see Apple acually mention that a new piece of hardware is coming, so unlike their past behaviour.
I'd guess a component manufacturer just notified Apple that they won't be able to supply them in quantity(IBM?) for a month, or perhaps Apple began manufacturing them and they realized there was a fatal design flaw.
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Originally posted by sanity assassin:
Pretty bad timing though. Something is amiss I think. Mind you, it's nice to see Apple acually mention that a new piece of hardware is coming, so unlike their past behaviour.


Well, typically they wouldn't admit it because they would have remaining inventory to clear out. In this instance they don't.

Had the inventory held, we wouldn't have seen this fore-warning of an "all-new" iMac on the horizon.

Now it only remains to get our expectations so freaking high that we will be bitterly disappointed in September no matter how awesome the new iMac is.
Here's to the new open Apple. Big smiles all round.
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Originally posted by Augie50:
I'd guess a component manufacturer just notified Apple that they won't be able to supply them in quantity(IBM?) for a month, or perhaps Apple began manufacturing them and they realized there was a fatal design flaw.


I'd say the former is much much more likely than the latter.
wow that page deserves a screen shot..

new imacs...cool...but still likes current imacs and if i could afford it i would have one right now....

so as a prvious poster said why not sell up and until september with discounts? like the cinema displays?

well maybe it's keeping one step ahead of the rumors...all i know is there's going to be a keynote in august or september
We will just have to be patient and see what Steve does next!
The few remaining iMac around (CompUSA, MicroCenter, etc.) should be going for a song... that is if you want a G4 iMac. Apple might as well sent "Soon obsolete" stickers to their resellers for adhering to the iMac...

Think the already unhappy resellers may be upset with this move... but mebbe not.
yeah didn't some financial guy say imac sales hurting apple...will the stock stay the same? aapl is almost passing dell....
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Originally posted by ironknee:
yeah didn't some financial guy say imac sales hurting apple...will the stock stay the same? aapl is almost passing dell....


This is not going to help the stock, as they have virtually no iMacs to sell. CompUSA, the largest Mac retail seller, is almost out of iMacs already, and some stores have been out for weeks.
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Originally posted by ironknee:
so as a prvious poster said why not sell up and until september with discounts? like the cinema displays?
because if they keep selling they're going to have to make more of the current iMacs, which they don't want.

i think this is great, because perhaps now apple will release something that you can actually buy the same day. :O!
My guess, was supposed to be announced to ship in July, but late into it's production SOMETHING came up. My guess, this was supposed to be the BIG WWDC announcement.

Anyone else anticipate iMac and iMac mini?
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Originally posted by fireside:
because if they keep selling they're going to have to make more of the current iMacs, which they don't want.

i think this is great, because perhaps now apple will release something that you can actually buy the same day. :O!


Which means, come mid-September, there will be a frenzy of "sightings" of unusual Apple boxes at CompUSA. Remember back when OS X (10.0) was first released and people were skulking through dumpsters at CompUSA in hopes of catching hold of an accidentally discarded box.

It is going to be a L - O - N - G summer. LOL!
Do you think they'll look good in aluminium?
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Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
What are you going to do for 3 months then?


I've got a 500 DVSE to get me by. Although if I am going to convince the wife of a new machine, I may have to part with that one also. which I dont want to do .

I'll think of something
I wonder what Apple has against just announcing them now and taking pre-orders. Its not like they have never done that before. The new 30" isnt shipping until August...
That is so weird and unlike them.
That's true... perhaps they may be later than September... or maybe they just want to blow everyone away or something who knows...
"The All New iMac...now with a 30" screen
Interesting article containing some speculation on this at El Reg
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Originally posted by LegendaryPinkOx:
Do you think they'll look good in aluminium?


Nah, my guess is white will continue to be the consumer line color of choice. You can't start making everything look like the G5s and the PowerBooks.
My guess is we'll see a more aluminum iMac, perhaps one that is accented with aluminium. And then MacWorld SF we'll see G5 PowerBooks, then the iBook G4 will get slight aluminium accents. As well as the iMac eventually getting the aluminium touch. They already have metal on them a little bit. I bet this will simply push it up a few notches.
Riiiiighhtt. New iMacs in aluminum with colors matching the new iPod minis. Tight fitting around the screen, G5....no wait I'll do fake specs.

G5 1.6 - G5 1.8
15, 17 and 20 inch TFT
Tight fitting aluminum case with different colors
60gig, 80gig and 100gig hard drives.
DVD-R across the line
Geforce 5 and 6 series with 64mbs.
Slot loading drive.
Airport Exteme
Airport remote control
Same base shape as current model
say g'bye to the gooseneck.
i cant wait to see what direction the design team has for the new imac .. the first one was .. nothing short of revolutionary (although i didnt like the colors) ... sweet little machines. i like the current ones .. the hinged lcd blew me away .. and i was a pc user during all of this .. now that i'm interested in macs .. i wanna see what the imac, and the next gen g5 powerbook will look like =)
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
say g'bye to the gooseneck.


well. the new one could have a similar design.

cmon. you know the gooseneck was cool.
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Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
say g'bye to the gooseneck.

I hope not. There's never been a design as ergonomic as that.
I like the gooseneck.
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Originally posted by boardsurfer:
I am in awe.

I was checking the url - clicking around thinking "this a fake right?"

Selling my 17 inch 800 immediately.


I'll give you $700
Before the rumors sites start to speculate on the specs, I would like to set the bar low now. That way I won't be disappointed when the new iMacs come out and don't have exactly what the rumor sites said. I'm going to say:

Top end iMac:
20" LCD
G5 2.0GHz
NVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra (64MB DDR video memory)
512 MB DDR400 SDRAM
120 GB Serial ATA HD
SuperDrive
$2699

Midrange iMac:
17" LCD
G5 1.8GHz
NVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra (64MB DDR video memory)
512 MB DDR400 SDRAM
80 GB Serial ATA HD
SuperDrive
$2299

Low end iMac:
17" LCD
G5 1.6GHz
GeForce4 MX (32MB DDR video memory)
256 MB DDR400 SDRAM
80 GB Serial ATA HD
Combo Drive
$1899

Other Notes: I think my predicted pricing is pretty reasonable for Apple. The eMac is the low end, the iBooks are about the same as the iMacs right now (and also in need of an update) and the PowerBooks and PowerMacs hold the high end. Maybe, just maybe we will get lucky and the low end will be an FX 5200, and the high end will be a Radeon 9600 (although knowing Apple not the XT vers). Everything is single processor of course (the precious PowerMacs can't suffer sales to these). I might even go so far as to say that the top end will only have a 1.8GHz G5, as Apple has done some similarly dumb things in the past.

I'm trying to keep in mind the 3 Apple constants:

1) Things will be more expensive than existing prices because of the "pretty new case markup" and the "it has a G5, so we are allowed to raise price points" factor (witness PowerMac pricing going up across the board when it went from G4 to G5).
2) The low end never has enough RAM, a trend Apple has been following for a while. Consequently some resellers will likely bundle "256 MB RAM free* with purchase of new iMac" where *denotes a $60 installation fee or something.
3) The video cards are always a couple notches under the best they could have reasonably done (witness the PowerMacs still having the same crap cards after a whole year).
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Originally posted by boardsurfer:
I wonder what Apple has against just announcing them now and taking pre-orders. Its not like they have never done that before. The new 30" isnt shipping until August...


Yeah. Wasn't the original iMac introduced in May... three months before it started shipping?
http://www.thinksecret.com/news/imacg5specs.html

Assuming it's accurate, I was pretty close on a lot of the technical accounts. Right with the video cards, right for the low end aside from HD size, right on the midrange aside from RAM, right to have reservations about the top end being faster than 1.8.

I'm pretty appalled they would sell everything after the low end with only a measly 256 MB RAM. I also have trouble believing they'd sell the low end for anything less than $1500, given the new enclosure (Apple charges a premium for style) and G5 "exclusiveness".

We'll see the final truth when they are actually released though.
"Sources said the new model will be similar in design and style to Sony's VAIO W700G, but with sleeker lines and contours. "It's not fair to compare the new iMac to the Sony model," said a source. "But it's the closest thing to it that currently exists."

Retarded.
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Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
"Sources said the new model will be similar in design and style to Sony's VAIO W700G, but with sleeker lines and contours. "It's not fair to compare the new iMac to the Sony model," said a source. "But it's the closest thing to it that currently exists."

Retarded.


If this is true, I win the "prediction of the year" award, and should be rewarded with 1000 extra posts added to my lot. Or a free iPod

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread....961#post2067716

These things are actually pretty cool in person.
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Originally posted by greenamp:
If this is true, I win the "prediction of the year" award, and should be rewarded with 1000 extra posts added to my lot. Or a free iPod

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread....961#post2067716


Ya well Apple should give you 1000 points for copying such a piss poor design.

Look at the TAM, people didn't want it.