k i guess my sarcasm didn't come across, crutchfield has about the highest prices around. Etronics.com ususally has really good prices, or hell guys on ebay have unopened items really cheap, a friend of mine bought from both and had no problems. He has alpine all around including two V12 amps, 3 type R subs, and their componets and loves it, and to be honest its the best sounding setup i have heard in a car.

BTW cash weren't you complaining a few months ago about having an ipod hooked up to and aux input and how messy the wiring will be and accessing the ipod?