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Post #17 by Zimphire
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CategorySoftware
Post DateFri, 13 May 2005 - 15:57
Original URLhttps://web.archive.org/web/20050618083736/https://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=255977
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Originally Posted by smeger
Absolutely nothing wrong with giving information. But do you remember what theming was like before ShapeShifter was released? Theme creators spent an insane amount of their time coaching people through reinstalling their operating systems instead of creating themes. They got sick of it, and it's no surprise.

smeger, you and I both know that isn't because doing it manually is somehow more dangerous. There have been people that have hosed their system with SS too, and had to reinstall. I wouldn't blame SS for that either.

I've been doing since before the Public Beta days. Not once did I have to reinstall.

Heck, most of the time I even hot swap the files and log back in.

The fact is, most of those problems came up because people was trying to install and older version of the Extras.rsrc into a newer version of the OS. And that is again, user error.

If you hosed your system install a theme manually, it wasn't because doing so is risky business. It is because you screwed up.

Same goes with anyone that screws up their system using SS, it's not SS's fault.
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Now, I know that you're going to say that you've been swapping resources manually forever and have never had a problem. That's wonderful, but before ShapeShifter, a ton of people did have problems. If you don't believe me, search these forums. But I'm sure you remember it - I know you were around back then.

Yes I do, just like I have seen people have problems with SS. I never said there shouldn't be an option like SS for those who do not want to manually install themes. It's great to have options.

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This is no longer true. Many many modern themes rely on things such as patterns that are larger than 8x8 pixels, custom text colors, enhanced menus, etc. At the current time, none of those are possible without ShapeShifter. Hell, you can't use colored metal windows without ShapeShifter from Panther on. That's a pretty basic requirement of a theme, wouldn't you say?

Like I said before, I that is cool. I never said SS sucked.

Take for example Smooth Stripes. Max releases a stand a lone non-shape-shifter version

Why? It doesn't REQUIRE it. That is all well and good.

I know there are a lot of people out there that just want the stripes gone, but don't want to buy a app to do it with. And this works perfectly.
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You shouldn't conflate the theme that you personally use with "a lot of themes".

Well I have used a lot of themes that was SS only, had them converted and only used the Extras, but ok.
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Anyway, as I said, I'm all for sharing information. But I'm not at all down with having to provide support for users who have hosed their operating system because they tried swapping resources manually using your methods, or who are complaining to Unsanity because their theme doesn't look right after swapping resources manually.

Why would you have to offer support of such things? You don't. If they swapped them out and messed something up without SS, that is their fault.

Again, don't get me wrong, SS is a bad-ass'd application. If I was more into themes, I would register it.

I don't see no reason to register it however if I am using only one theme, and it doesn't require SS.

That would be a bit of an over-kill.

Every OS upgrade I just modify the resource, hot-swap and I am finished till next upgrade.
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